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This does not apply as it is geared towards spacer lifts. The more I read the responses I'm beginning to some of you don't fully understand what the difference is between the two.
What's the point?
You said larger tires. 37+, right? Why? Are you rock crawling the Raptor and therefore need more clearance between the IFS/rear diff and the ground?
If that's the goal, then hell yeah a lift makes all kinds of sense. But, then I guess I would ask, why did you buy a Raptor if you want to rock crawl in a way that requires more ground clearance than it already has? The Raptor is decidedly NOT a crawler for many reasons; you've got lots of bigger fish to fry to turn a Raptor into a rock crawler before you need to worry about more ground clearance.
If that's not the goal, then I'm sort of lost. What's the point of larger tires, and therefore a lift?
This was something that I had thought about just because it popped into my mind. I decided to brave the shit storm I knew this thread would attract because I read a couple posts on Squatting Dog's thread about the Bull Run. He referenced issues he was having with angles and his hubs failing from the Snow Ball 500. He's on the lowest setting for the Icon shocks. He's searching for a way to address the issue. Not that he would go in this direction, I thought it would be worth figuring out if it would actually work. With the length of the supercrew I would love to have some extra ground clearance due to the long wheel base and better approach angles.
Asking questions is OK. Why not? It stimulates conversation and, at the very least, we can see how many posts go up before the thread goes off the tracks.
I think a simple answer to the question is: A suspension lift is fraught with all kinds of challenges for the designer to do it right. And there are complex issues that make suspension lifts expensive IF you can find one for the vehicle. And that leads to yet another answer...availability of a suspension lift for a Raptor.
The alternatives to putting a suspension lift on a Raptor seem to be much more palatable in terms of availability, ease of installation, cost and durability.
Agreed! I just want to get to see if this really is a bad idea.
I would think it comes down to personal preference there is no good reason like "because your truck will burst in to flames".. Everyones got an idea, by the way that’s how the Raptor came to be it was first an idea. Then you stimulate conversation to see if someone else has ventured down this path. Then you discover many people like to drive fast and on the edge of out of control.. "sometimes farther, see link Raptor Jumps far". So if nobody points to a geometric flaw, they have tried that lift kit and it does not work, etc.. Then really its just an opinion and I don’t think the OP asked for an opinion, but is asking for hard facts don’t do it because...
Ding, Ding!
so wait. what 4" kit are we talking about? what intended use for YOUR truck are you hoping for? what are you trying to accomplish.
i explained to you how to go up in height, safely, while maintaining a ride quality the same or better than stock and improving high speed offroad performance.
now that doesn't sound like what you're looking for. so what is it?
I already stated what I'm trying to accomplish, it's the title of the damn thread!
Here's the kithttp://www.fabtechmotorsports.com/products/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=949&display=FORD%204WD
It may not even be compatible. 4wheelparts says it is but I think there's a good chance it's not.
So, why is a 4 inch suspension lift bad?
because then mine wouldnt fit in my garage
lol, first logical answer!
no noo nooo... let him put fagtech suspension on a raptor and see what happens to his truck due to the ****** quality and lack of performance
Lol, thank for the input. I can tell you really know what your talking about.
it makes perfect sense. Dropped crossmember/diffmount takes the angle out.of CVs and ball joints. Coupled with a 3.0 coilover... Wouldactuallywork great. Still be cheaper to do glass fenders but I see where he's going
Thanks for getting it!
I understand what you mean by keeping the correct angles and all that crap but when ever you add any lift product that does not directly bolt on and replace an existing product like the after market coilovers it asks for trouble.
The reason people have not done this is A.) its more expensive and more work
B.) why would they wanna replace something a ford tech put on and void warranty or possibly make the truck less reliable by replacing with lesser quality products.
No one is saying what damage it will cause forsure because no one wants to put their truck on the line and put these prodcuts on when there is a simpler way.
feel free to be the test subject in a way and show us how it works and maybe even give the raptor community another option for the looks of their trucks
maybe ask this dealer? it seems to be lifted!
2011 FORD F150 RAPTOR SVT 4X4 OFF RD TRUCK FOR SALE SEE WWW SUNSETMILAN COM - YouTube
I apologize if i sound like a ****. it just seems cheaper and like a better investment for fenders and mid perch. Plus i am a big fan of after market fenders like the boatec and fiberwerks
2011 FORD F150 RAPTOR SVT 4X4 OFF RD TRUCK FOR SALE SEE WWW SUNSETMILAN COM - YouTube
I get where your coming from. However, I see guys pretty much completely redoing the factory setups with aftermarket upper control arms, shocks, tie rods, cv axles, etc. All I'm talking about are is adding a crossmember which will lower the mounting points of the lower control arms, lengthen the spindles, lower the front drivetrain, etc.
As for warranty all of the other mods I mentioned will void the factory warranty as well. For reliability, I ran a 6" lift on my 05 and wheeled in more than 99% of the guys out there. Never had any issues other than a broken sway bar end link nut which got sheared off during an extreme flex situation.
Oh, and that one has a body lift. You can tell from the front tow hooks being below the bumper.
