Ford got the paddle shifters completely wrong

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What is your issue with putting it into M and then using the paddles as you want?

Ford gave us 2 ways to use the paddles - in lockout mode or in M. What problem do you have with those options?

Put the truck in Manual mode and do all the shifting you want.

I'm not interested in what BMW or others are doing. But, since it was brought up, BMW has lost its way. Their cars have gained all kinds of weight and each series has bloated its way up to the size of the next series. The 3's are now like 5's, the 5's are like 7's and the 7's are too big. They're all bloated pigs. BMW used to make drivers cars now they're just overpriced. One of the only useful BMWs is the 1-Series.

Now, back to your complaints about the paddle shifting in the Raptor. Why doesn't the M setting work for you?
 

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I'm not interested in what BMW or others are doing. But, since it was brought up, BMW has lost its way. Their cars have gained all kinds of weight and each series has bloated its way up to the size of the next series. The 3's are now like 5's, the 5's are like 7's and the 7's are too big. They're all bloated pigs. BMW used to make drivers cars now they're just overpriced. One of the only useful BMWs is the 1-Series.

Now, back to your complaints about the paddle shifting in the Raptor. Why doesn't the M setting work for you?



Agree 100% the E36 M3 really was the ultimate driving machine......the M3/4 now is a fat pig compared to what BMW used to make


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I'm enjoying your critique of Ford's paddle shifters and your comparison to your wife's Infiniti.

What is your issue with putting it into M and then using the paddles as you want?

Ford gave us 2 ways to use the paddles - in lockout mode or in M. What problem do you have with those options?

Put the truck in Manual mode and do all the shifting you want.

I used my wife's infinity as an example, that car's gone and she has a BMW that works exactly like the Infinity. Put it in full manual mode and it doesn't shift up or down until you tell it. In Drive it works as I've described and I use it that way all the time.

Basically, if you were familiar with what I'm describing you'd appreciate it. Or not. I'm just stating 'my' opinion.
 

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I'm not interested in what BMW or others are doing. But, since it was brought up, BMW has lost its way. Their cars have gained all kinds of weight and each series has bloated its way up to the size of the next series. The 3's are now like 5's, the 5's are like 7's and the 7's are too big. They're all bloated pigs. BMW used to make drivers cars now they're just overpriced. One of the only useful BMWs is the 1-Series.

Now, back to your complaints about the paddle shifting in the Raptor. Why doesn't the M setting work for you?

BMW is not the only one. My neighbor has a cherry 1970s F-150 and that thing looks anorexic next my my Raptor. It is a gorgeous truck, but I would never trade it for the comfort, convenience, and performance of my bloated pig.

The only car that hasn't gained weight over the last 20 years is the Miata.
 

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ITT people getting annoyed their truck drives in automatic mode when they leave the shift lever is in the automatic position.

Personally I like the flexibility of the lockout because it lets me lockout gears when driving in the mountains and avoid the excessive reliance on overdrive. This is a great feature on uneven terrain. When I want to drive the truck manually, I shift into manual mode. If I want to drop four gears to get around someone spur of the moment, I floor it about 1 second before I need the power and let the truck drop 4 gears and do its thing.

OP has a valid point. Why not leave the lockout function for the buttons on the shifter, and then have the paddle shifters allow more finite control if you are in auto? Manual mode is a PIA for on-road usage because you have too many gears to wade through. At the same time, I don't drive sport mode too often because it takes decades to upshift. If I could use the paddles you could get rid of that when you didn't want it, or instances where you'd have to 'prime' the gas pedal to get a downshift for a quick pass in normal mode.

I like the 10 speed, and it shifts well on its own for the most part. I like the paddles for offroad (tho they are a bit slow), but they'd be so much more useful if I could use them for nudging the auto the right way every now and then.
 

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Here’s the solution:

Put the shifter in the M mode. Not the automatic D mode. That’s it. Not hard.
 

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I'm not interested in what BMW or others are doing. But, since it was brought up, BMW has lost its way. Their cars have gained all kinds of weight and each series has bloated its way up to the size of the next series. The 3's are now like 5's, the 5's are like 7's and the 7's are too big. They're all bloated pigs. BMW used to make drivers cars now they're just overpriced. One of the only useful BMWs is the 1-Series.

Now, back to your complaints about the paddle shifting in the Raptor. Why doesn't the M setting work for you?
IDK. My 6 spd M2 is ******* glorious
 
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