Ford got the paddle shifters completely wrong

[WhatExit?]

IDK. My 6 spd M2 is ******* glorious

Yeah, my Porsche Boxster S's 6 speed was even better than my M3's 6 speed but it's irrelevant.

All performance cars' auto transmissions can shift way faster than manuals.

The manual is dead - it will be gone soon and forever.

 

[Spartan1]

Yeah, my Porsche Boxster S's 6 speed was even better than my M3's 6 speed but it's irrelevant.

All performance cars' auto transmissions can shift way faster than manuals.

The manual is dead - it will be gone soon and forever.

I hardly ever use the paddle shifters but I occasionally like to do so if I am driving in an area where there are mountains. I used to have a jeep that would allow me to gear down by tapping the paddle shifter to the left. I miss this. In certain other situations I also like to "engine break". It is harder to do with a 10 speed and paddle shifters and takes some getting used to. To really gear down quickly you have to really flip through them. The truck is smart, but it does not always do what you might want it to do. I think that it has a hill decent mode but I believe this is for slower driving down hills.

 

[smurfslayer]

So, every maker seems to have a different take on how manual shifting of an automatic ‘should’ work. I’d venture most of us aren’t mucking about with shifting the truck manually as it’s a lot of work for a very little ROI. As mentioned before, paddling the truck in normal mode or sport simply locks out or returns gears to availability. it’s kind of lazy too; it won’t take more than a single lock out request at once. That is, if you hit the left paddle 3 times as fast as you can, you get -1 - the first input does nothing, the 2nd input locks out 10th, the 3rd is ignored because it’s still working on the rather slow lockout request and downshift.


but, if you’re in normal drive mode and drop to manual, multiple downshift inputs do get accepted. Probably best not to get crazy with this, but at least it responds better than with locking out available gears.

 

[jaz13]

The big difference between cars that switch to manual mode when the paddle shifters are used, like the BMW dual clutch, is these cars have a momentary switch that toggles between auto and manual mode. Bump the selector to go into auto, bump it again to go into manual.

In the Raptor we physically move the shift lever between auto and manual mode. So let's say Ford does what people are asking for and paddle presses turn the truck into manual mode. That's great for passing the guy ahead of you. But how do you switch back to auto mode since the shifter is already in automatic mode?

Realistically the only option is to move the shifter into M and then put it back into A. That a pretty inelegant solution. Maybe you do something unintuitive like pull both paddles simultaneously. Or maybe the manual mode reverts back to auto mode after something arbitrary like 30 seconds. You see what I'm getting at right? The shift lever is not configured to work the way you are asking and they would need to make the selecter between manual and automatic a button or momentary switch so the driver could easily switch back to auto mode after engaging manual mode with the paddle shifters.

 

[Smokeshow60]

The big difference between cars that switch to manual mode when the paddle shifters are used, like the BMW dual clutch, is these cars have a momentary switch that toggles between auto and manual mode. Bump the selector to go into auto, bump it again to go into manual.

In the Raptor we physically move the shift lever between auto and manual mode. So let's say Ford does what people are asking for and paddle presses turn the truck into manual mode. That's great for passing the guy ahead of you. But how do you switch back to auto mode since the shifter is already in automatic mode?

Realistically the only option is to move the shifter into M and then put it back into A. That a pretty inelegant solution. Maybe you do something unintuitive like pull both paddles simultaneously. Or maybe the manual mode reverts back to auto mode after something arbitrary like 30 seconds. You see what I'm getting at right? The shift lever is not configured to work the way you are asking and they would need to make the selecter between manual and automatic a button or momentary switch so the driver could easily switch back to auto mode after engaging manual mode with the paddle shifters.

Incorrect..

Ford has already been doing this for a few years now. My 2015 explorer sport temporarily switches to manual when a paddle is pulled and will automatically switch back if no further inputs are received. The f150 operations are different because, IT'S A TRUCK. Designed to do TRUCK STUFF. Locking gears out is a wonderful feature for towing and off road use... u know TRUCK STUFF. They designed the system appropriate to the design use of said system. And I for one think they got it right. Then again I don't pretend my truck is a sports car either. If there was anything at all I can find a problem with first on my list would be the fact that paddle shifters are attached to the wheel and not the column (all Ford's) are this way and I don't care for it.

 

[Morn]

I hardly ever use the paddle shifters but I occasionally like to do so if I am driving in an area where there are mountains. I used to have a jeep that would allow me to gear down by tapping the paddle shifter to the left. I miss this. In certain other situations I also like to "engine break". It is harder to do with a 10 speed and paddle shifters and takes some getting used to. To really gear down quickly you have to really flip through them. The truck is smart, but it does not always do what you might want it to do. I think that it has a hill decent mode but I believe this is for slower driving down hills.

I discovered by accident that Tow/Haul mode will engine brake by dropping down the gears for you to prevent downhill acceleration. I had bumped the button on the shifter and wondered wtf was going on for a couple minutes until I figured it out.

 

[Smokeshow60]

I discovered by accident that Tow/Haul mode will engine brake by dropping down the gears for you to prevent downhill acceleration. I had bumped the button on the shifter and wondered wtf was going on for a couple minutes until I figured it out.

Only because it was in the next possible gear to be locked out by pulling the paddle.

 

[rtmozingo]

Incorrect..

Ford has already been doing this for a few years now. My 2015 explorer sport temporarily switches to manual when a paddle is pulled and will automatically switch back if no further inputs are received. The f150 operations are different because, IT'S A TRUCK. Designed to do TRUCK STUFF. Locking gears out is a wonderful feature for towing and off road use... u know TRUCK STUFF. They designed the system appropriate to the design use of said system. And I for one think they got it right. Then again I don't pretend my truck is a sports car either. If there was anything at all I can find a problem with first on my list would be the fact that paddle shifters are attached to the wheel and not the column (all Ford's) are this way and I don't care for it.

Again, so why can't the buttons on the shifter used for lockout function, and paddles function as OP would like? Or better yet (since I just saw someone say they use shifting column to shift) give you the option for what does what.

 

[Smokeshow60]

Again, so why can't the buttons on the shifter used for lockout function, and paddles function as OP would like? Or better yet (since I just saw someone say they use shifting column to shift) give you the option for what does what.

Because that would cost more

 

[copb8]

Because that would cost more

It would simply be a software change. Hardly a factor.

Well I think all's been said that needs to be said about this topic. Some agree with me that it'd be a nice feature while others are just wrong.