Tell me why a 4 inch suspension lift is bad

[6.2]

Yeah, I think you got the wrong truck for what you wanna do with it.... Unless you are changing what you enjoy doing lol.

 

[keatonskidmore]

So based on your videos above you just like to go mudding? If so..why'd you get a Raptor? Plenty of other vehicles better for mud..I still have never found out whats so fun about driving through a bunch of mud to see if you can. I'd rather go fast off road then slow and cover my truck in mud

 

[hatfield44]

If you go with a lift like fabtech's it appears you would have to go with larger than a 37 to really see any benefit. The reason for a lift is to fit larger tires to increase ground clearance (a larger tire will roll over an object easier than a smaller as well). If you go to 37s over 35s you gain a inch of clearance. I haven't seen the kit in person, but it appears that the front crossmember drop is at least 1" maybe 2" or more. This means you could possibly loose ground clearance for the fabtech 4" lift with only 37s, not to mention skid plate fit issues, and making the front diff more vulnerable to damage due to it being lower relative to the frame rails.

 

[jeff]

the fabtech website says the 4inch kit will not fit the raptor and 35s are the tires you would run.. Im curious as to which kit you were told you could run

4" Performance System w/Dirt Logic 2.5 Coilovers & Rear Dirt Logic Shocks - 2009-12 Ford F150 4WD

 

[pirate air]

If the kit is done right, I really don't see the problem with doing it as long as you limit the type of off roading. Mud, minor rock crawling, slow-ish "fire" road kinda stuff shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't jump it a bunch or try and tackle the rough stuff at high speed with it because I doubt the kit was intended or even tested for that. If done right its better than stuffing a lift block between the shock and chassis.

As for if it should be done to a Raptor or if the Raptor is a poor truck choice for what you want to do, I don't care, not my truck or money.

 

[BIRDMAN]

Honestly who cares if it is a Raptor. You see high trim level F-150s, F-250's and F-350s lifted all the time. The fact that the Raptor is a "$50,000" truck has no bearing on how it should be used for its intended use or not. It will do just fine and look damn good doing it.

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[Bigg50]

One problem I DO see with doing a suspension lift is going to be the longer spindles. The factory spindles have already been proven to be a weak point on some more serious "offroad adventurers" vehicles and if you lengthen them (giving place for more force to be applied due to leverage) then I'm SURE you will have problems in this area.

Excellent point.

I say lift it and see how it does. Why not? It is your truck and money. Just let us know how it works.

I will. But i doubt I would end up going this route. From the points below.

10-4. So better approach angles is the goal?

If so, how about a replacement front bumper and a dovetailed rear? Both result is at least as much approach angle increase as might a 4" lift from stock. Heck, depending on how you do it you could end up with tons more even.

So, yeah if increasing the approach angle is the goal, I would say a lift is a "bad" idea, especially when compared to the other options out there.

True, ground clearance would also be nice due to the wheel base.

well if you take the raptor in terrain like the videos like above take videos! The Raptor will probably sink like a brick unless you get some heavy momentum going into it.

haha, this think will never see mud like my 05 did. It's not worth it. A couple minutes of fun for 2-3 hours of clean up.

Yeah, I think you got the wrong truck for what you wanna do with it.... Unless you are changing what you enjoy doing lol.

Yep, I do plan to use the Raptor as it's intended. I'll being hitting Pismo tomorrow and I want to make some desert runs. My point of posting the video was too show that I like to use my trucks as they are intended or built for. I'll probably end up getting a older cherokee to do jeep trials.

If you go with a lift like fabtech's it appears you would have to go with larger than a 37 to really see any benefit. The reason for a lift is to fit larger tires to increase ground clearance (a larger tire will roll over an object easier than a smaller as well). If you go to 37s over 35s you gain a inch of clearance. I haven't seen the kit in person, but it appears that the front crossmember drop is at least 1" maybe 2" or more. This means you could possibly loose ground clearance for the fabtech 4" lift with only 37s, not to mention skid plate fit issues, and making the front diff more vulnerable to damage due to it being lower relative to the frame rails.

Goog points.

the fabtech website says the 4inch kit will not fit the raptor and 35s are the tires you would run.. Im curious as to which kit you were told you could run

4" Performance System w/Dirt Logic 2.5 Coilovers & Rear Dirt Logic Shocks - 2009-12 Ford F150 4WD

Well I guess 4wheelparts is wrong and this kit won't work. I figured it didn't...

If the kit is done right, I really don't see the problem with doing it as long as you limit the type of off roading. Mud, minor rock crawling, slow-ish "fire" road kinda stuff shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't jump it a bunch or try and tackle the rough stuff at high speed with it because I doubt the kit was intended or even tested for that. If done right its better than stuffing a lift block between the shock and chassis.

As for if it should be done to a Raptor or if the Raptor is a poor truck choice for what you want to do, I don't care, not my truck or money.

That's true that high speed could present different stress' that haven't been tested on the cross member. And I guess this is the biggest risk. It hasn't been tested in this way so it could work and it could fail.

Honestly who cares if it is a Raptor. You see high trim level F-150s, F-250's and F-350s lifted all the time. The fact that the Raptor is a "$50,000" truck has no bearing on how it should be used for its intended use or not. It will do just fine and look damn good doing it.

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Your damn right it will



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[MagicMtnDan]

Hey guys, I know a lot of you now think of me as the village idiot for starting this thread and bringing up such a topic. Hey, maybe I am. But, try to understand what I'm asking and what I'm trying to get answers to. I never said this was good idea. I want to know if this is a good idea or a bad idea. And most importantly, why either way.

OK, you asked and we responded. Conclusion is simple:

 

[Dv8tor]

I say jack it up high because fat ******* can't jump. Cowa Bunga

 

[Icecobra]

I will support in you in the endeavor of lifting, and when I say support you I mean stand behind you and say that looks killer lets see how it works...