For the GOTTAHAVEAV8 crowd

[smurfslayer]

As an attempt to educate via demonstration [COLOR=“Red”]with an incendiary title, specifically to gin up an argument to show off my internet skilz, and I’ll show that troll Truckzor! [/COLOR]

fixed it for you.

 

[Hamm3r]

Did you know that excess estrogen in the water supply is causing mens' testosterone levels to be lower than they ever have been? I surmise that there is a direct correlation between V6 truck sales and estrogen levels in modern men.

Correlation but not causation.

However, I'm holding out for a V8, so I'll be holding onto my truck 'til then. Good thing I have experience restoring classic cars. Looks like I'll be restoring this truck one day.

 

[Truckzor]

Since you're interested in "my" definition of white noise, I'll go with the, ya know, ACTUAL definition: a heterogeneous mixture of sound waves extending over a wide frequency range (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/white noise)

Now... can YOU prove that the exhaust note of a V6 meets the above criteria?

Where's the part that says it's soothing, though?

The fact that sound that lacks discernible orders can be used to drown out other sounds doesn't make it soothing. It just makes it noise.

And yes, I have posted on many occasions the scientific evidence showing why (and displaying graphically) the noise produced by V6 engines vs. the sounds made by better engines.

 

[Aaron]

 

[BurnOut]

Where's the part that says it's soothing, though?

The fact that sound that lacks discernible orders can be used to drown out other sounds doesn't make it soothing. It just makes it noise.

And yes, I have posted on many occasions the scientific evidence showing why (and displaying graphically) the noise produced by V6 engines vs. the sounds made by better engines.

LMGTFY: https://www.google.com/search?ei=RI......0...1..64.psy-ab..0.1.140....0.iVYFsSu5pAI

You seem to have trouble with simple concepts, so here are a few pointers: a collection of letters (A, B, C, etc...) all squished together make words, and words are separated by small spaces. A collection of words is called a sentence. Sentences generally begin with a capital letter and are concluded by a punctuation mark of some sort (typically ., !, or ?). A collection of sentences is called a paragraph. Paragraphs, when read and understood (this part is critical), can often convey information, or knowledge. Give it a try, ya never know... you may learn something new!

In any event, you STILL haven't answered my question: What is your favorite beverage?

 

[Aaron]

 

[jaz13]

Friend, you are a troll. Just own it.



I've heard plenty of TTV8s sound GREAT. Porsche Cayenne, all the big Mercs, modded Mustangs, etc. All the current M Bimmers in my area sound good, as well. Except of course the M3. When I heard one of those go by for the first time I actually felt bad for the guy.



Been hearing this same old song since the early 70s but there's never been a time when more international manufacturers offered V8s. The TTV6 isn't a long term solution. In the real world it's less efficient than a big lazy V8. And for enthusiasts it has less potential. It's not going to last as long. Doesn't have any low end torque. Has boost lag. It's just not a very good motor for a truck. It belongs in a Taurus SHO.

Now if you said we are ALL going to have to get used to fewer and fewer gas powered vehicles in the future, that I would agree with.



Great. Now provide evidence to support what you claimed the definition of white noise is.

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You're completely full of shit bro. Put down the kool-aid and get educated...



Try it's better by DOUBLE at 1000 RPM (probably quadruple or more just off idle) and the dinky little V6 doesn't cross the line until 2200 or so. And god forbid you let off the gas and lose your boost surge, because then you'll have NO power until they spool again.

It's just not a great truck motor. At least not if you need throttle modulation and responsiveness. Bottom line, it's a great Taurus SHO motor. Does it work in a truck? Sure. Just not very well.

Look at those FLAT torque curves for the V8s. That, along with their throttle responsiveness and no boost lag, is what makes them good truck motors. They will also last forever and don't lose 100 horsepower when heat soaked. They have fewer parts to fail out in the boonies... I could go on. But you guys have your heads shoved so far up the collective asses of Ford's marketing department there's no point.

Just like there's no point to this thread.

If turbos are such a liability in trucks, why does every "real truck" (dump truck, 18wheeler, etc) come with a turbo? Turbos are incredibly efficient. Power when you need it during acceleration, less friction when you don't. Turbos are vastly superior in real truck applications and that is why every real truck has one. Real trucks don't need throttle response, they need power and efficiency. For a "toy truck", a N/A engine and manual transmission are a lot of fun for playing, but never mistake work from play.

As for moving part count, V6TT has fewer parts than a V8. Plus it is a lot easier to replace a failed turbo than a failed rod bearing. Plus you can still drive home with a broken turbo.

And the only time I'm under 2k RPM is when I'm loafing on the highway. Redline is above 6k and when I'm pushing it, I am always well above 2k RPM.

 

[Truckzor]

fixed it for you.

I am an anti-troll. Case in point, this ridiculous thread.

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If turbos are such a liability in trucks, why does every "real truck" (dump truck, 18wheeler, etc) come with a turbo? Turbos are incredibly efficient. Power when you need it during acceleration, less friction when you don't. Turbos are vastly superior in real truck applications and that is why every real truck has one. Real trucks don't need throttle response, they need power and efficiency. For a "toy truck", a N/A engine and manual transmission are a lot of fun for playing, but never mistake work from play.

As for moving part count, V6TT has fewer parts than a V8. Plus it is a lot easier to replace a failed turbo than a failed rod bearing. Plus you can still drive home with a broken turbo.

And the only time I'm under 2k RPM is when I'm loafing on the highway. Redline is above 6k and when I'm pushing it, I am always well above 2k RPM.

Are you driving a dump truck? I'm not. You're just proving my point. Turbos are suited to work trucks. Not off road trucks.

And my point was fewer unique parts/systems. But there's no way a TTV6 has fewer parts than a NA V8 using either terminology.

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LMGTFY: https://www.google.com/search?ei=RI......0...1..64.psy-ab..0.1.140....0.iVYFsSu5pAI

You seem to have trouble with simple concepts, so here are a few pointers: a collection of letters (A, B, C, etc...) all squished together make words, and words are separated by small spaces. A collection of words is called a sentence. Sentences generally begin with a capital letter and are concluded by a punctuation mark of some sort (typically ., !, or ?). A collection of sentences is called a paragraph. Paragraphs, when read and understood (this part is critical), can often convey information, or knowledge. Give it a try, ya never know... you may learn something new!

In any event, you STILL haven't answered my question: What is your favorite beverage?

That's not the definition. You do know what a definition is, right?

https://www.google.com/search?q=def...7j69i61j0l4.3999j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

As a reminder...

No, white noise is, by its very definition, soothing to many people

 

[BurnOut]

I am an anti-troll. Case in point, this ridiculous thread.

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Are you driving a dump truck? I'm not. You're just proving my point. Turbos are suited to work trucks. Not off road trucks.

And my point was fewer unique parts/systems. But there's no way a TTV6 has fewer parts than a NA V8 using either terminology.

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That's not the definition. You do know what a definition is, right?

https://www.google.com/search?q=def...7j69i61j0l4.3999j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

As a reminder...

I'm not replying to any other posts from you until you answer my question:

What is your favorite beverage?

 

[Truckzor]

I'm not replying to any other posts from you until you answer my question:

What is your favorite beverage?

Yes, of course you would avoid the subject of the thread you started in which you have been proven wrong.