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Vince

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Maybe we just discovered a raptor someone can get for MSRP. :win:

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800A +$15k :patriot:
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Surprised a dealer ordered an 800A for dealer stock. The price of that truck is well under my scab MSRP .... wow.
 

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I wouldn't accept that truck if I had ordered it. I'm. It a believer of a hard break in. I like to ***** foot and not load the motor, fluctuate rpm's, and get some heat cycles to make sure the rings seat properly. I've been racing motocross most of my life and after I rebuild my motor and properly break it in it last ls much longer than my buds who don't follow my procedure.
 

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Back to the exhaust sound... I don't care how fast it is or how fancy it is, it sounds terrible. I won't be buying one simply for that fact. Plus, this new ecoboost needs to get many with 40k+ miles and no condensate/misfire/cam phaser/ fuel in oil dillution issues before I would even trust it.



So you're just trying to stir shit up then. Gotcha sport.
 

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I would never buy from that dealer.

He should buy his own truck if he wants to use it in a promo video.
 

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I wouldn't accept that truck if I had ordered it. I'm. It a believer of a hard break in. I like to ***** foot and not load the motor, fluctuate rpm's, and get some heat cycles to make sure the rings seat properly. I've been racing motocross most of my life and after I rebuild my motor and properly break it in it last ls much longer than my buds who don't follow my procedure.

Nothing will seat rings better than maximum cylinder pressure.

Now, it greatly depends on the ring material as to how sensitive it is to (a lack of) cylinder pressure- a moly ring will break in *much* easier than stainless ring. I assume Ford used a moly coated ring, as you likely did in your motorcycle engines- so its probably a moot point for those engines.

In my opinion, even with moly coated top rings, you are still better off to give it a few runs up to redline at WOT right off the bat with a short cool down periods in between. You can work your way up in the amount of throttle and RPMs if it makes you feel better.

There are limits to how 'abusive' you should be. You should not just flog a new engine non-stop, as you could overheat the oil locally and the oil could potentially glaze the cylinder wall cross hatching.

A max effort boosted gas engine using ductile iron top rings, or even more critically- stainless top rings, definitely needs to see max cylinder pressures ASAP. Doing an easy "break-in" with the stainless rings will result in an engine that consumes a lot of oil.

Notice I've only been talking about the top rings. The lower oil control rings also need pressure to seat and you'll never get and real pressure on those either by babying it.
 
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I really don't see that being a huge deal....It certainly wouldn't prevent me from buying the truck
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Nothing will seat rings better than maximum cylinder pressure.

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There are limits to how 'abusive' you should be. You should not just flog a new engine non-stop, as you could overheat the oil locally and the oil could potentially glaze the cylinder wall cross hatching.

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Notice I've only been talking about the top rings. The lower oil control rings also need pressure to seat and you'll never get and real pressure on those either by babying it.

You may as well be right about this. But something just doesn't sit right with me. Its like you spend all your time and money waiting on your baby and someone hands her off to you saying. "Welp, ya need not worry about breaking her in.. she's ain't no ****** no more" :flame:

Kind of wondering what @Darin03 thought of this. :driver:
 

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The dude got on the go pedal for less than 5 seconds. Not really seeing what the big deal is.

Everyone wouldn't have the same opinion, so I respect your indifference. Since this is not a special order, it may be water under the bridge. But this video may be a glimpse of the iceberg.. from above the water line.
 
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