Two car seats and a SCAB

[MoltenAZRaptor]

Assume the one seat is scooted all the way to the front for the rear facing seat?

Debating on putting it in the middle or on the side, but I only have one kid to deal with.

Yeah. Rear facing was behind the passenger seat and the forward facing was in the middle. It was fine for just me and the kids, but not great for adult passengers. Go middle if you only have one seat as that interferes less with front passenger.

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[ROCKETW19]

Assume the one seat is scooted all the way to the front for the rear facing seat?

Debating on putting it in the middle or on the side, but I only have one kid to deal with.

one kid def put the seat in the middle. there is no science to back this up but it has to be safer for side impact collision. I would also look at Recaros for the car seat. 8 years ago when I researched car seat Recaro was the only one with side impact ratings. that was 8 years ago I am sure theres more now but shit they make world famous racing seats and my kids need the best if something happens.

 

[Smokeshow60]

one kid def put the seat in the middle. there is no science to back this up but it has to be safer for side impact collision. I would also look at Recaros for the car seat. 8 years ago when I researched car seat Recaro was the only one with side impact ratings. that was 8 years ago I am sure theres more now but shit they make world famous racing seats and my kids need the best if something happens.

There is no 'latch" system provisions for the middle seat in the f150... only the outboard rear seats are equipped.

 

[Snakedriver]

Love my scab.best looking raptors.

By far the best looking Raptor.

 

[ROCKETW19]

There is no 'latch" system provisions for the middle seat in the f150... only the outboard rear seats are equipped.

oh damn yea I am weird I will only use the latch also.

 

[MoltenAZRaptor]

oh damn yea I am weird I will only use the latch also.

Any car seat can be installed with a seat belt only (and used in the middle seating position). Latch has a weight limit too, so you eventually have to use the seat belt anyway. Latch is just easier.

 

[Smokeshow60]

Any car seat can be installed with a seat belt only (and used in the middle seating position). Latch has a weight limit too, so you eventually have to use the seat belt anyway. Latch is just easier.

Even though a car seat can be installed with a seat belt the latch system is clearly superior for a number of reasons.
1. The latch base straps can be tightened and locked in tension securing the child seat much tighter into the vehicles seat while a seat belt relies on its inertia lock and therefore will always have some slack.
2. The latch system utilizes a top tether securing the top of the seat back and preventing forward rotation which a seatbelt cannot prevent .
3. Since all modern vehicles are equipped with shoulder restraints it becomes an issue when in use with a child seat because the angled shoulder belt usually pushes the child seat to the side and make securing it iffy at best.

 

[ROCKETW19]

Any car seat can be installed with a seat belt only (and used in the middle seating position). Latch has a weight limit too, so you eventually have to use the seat belt anyway. Latch is just easier.

Yes my F250 had no latch system I was forced to use the belt to hold the seat. I am sure it is just as safe but in my mind I have to use the latch. I am not saying it cant be used or what ever I was just saying I am weird I have to use the latch system. not only do I use the latch I cinch that thing down so hard it don't move at all. I am sure that don't matter either and prob ruining my seats but again I am weird and way over protective of my kids.

 

[MoltenAZRaptor]

Even though a car seat can be installed with a seat belt the latch system is clearly superior for a number of reasons.
1. The latch base straps can be tightened and locked in tension securing the child seat much tighter into the vehicles seat while a seat belt relies on its inertia lock and therefore will always have some slack.
2. The latch system utilizes a top tether securing the top of the seat back and preventing forward rotation which a seatbelt cannot prevent .
3. Since all modern vehicles are equipped with shoulder restraints it becomes an issue when in use with a child seat because the angled shoulder belt usually pushes the child seat to the side and make securing it iffy at best.

If your point is that latch makes it easier for people to install seats correctly, I agree with you. However, your 2nd point isn't valid as the tether is used with a seat belt installation for forward facing anyway. Only some seats support using the tether for rear facing.

If you learn how to install a car seat correctly, both ways are considered equally safe.

Of more interest to others, not all car seats can be installed with Ford's inflatable belts, so check on that before you buy.

 

[BajaFred]

Even though a car seat can be installed with a seat belt the latch system is clearly superior for a number of reasons.
1. The latch base straps can be tightened and locked in tension securing the child seat much tighter into the vehicles seat while a seat belt relies on its inertia lock and therefore will always have some slack.
2. The latch system utilizes a top tether securing the top of the seat back and preventing forward rotation which a seatbelt cannot prevent .
3. Since all modern vehicles are equipped with shoulder restraints it becomes an issue when in use with a child seat because the angled shoulder belt usually pushes the child seat to the side and make securing it iffy at best.

True if you're doing it incorrectly

Firefighter training here

Put your knee or both knees into the car seat then buckle the belt

Now pull the belt all the way out to activate the self-locking mechanism - almost EVERYONE misses this step

Still holding the excess, make a loop of webbing on the side with the buckle, and use this loop to yank all the slack out of the lap portion while you're putting slightly more weight on the opposite side - to keep the seat from sinking to the buckle side

Feed excess back into the shoulder clickity clackity thing

This entire time, your weight has been in the seat - once you get off - the lack of weight will further pin the car seat into the cushion

Everyone one of my "belt" installs doesn't move at all in any direction

FYI - you should still use the top tether with a seat belt unless your car seat says no

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My daughter told me she approves of my raptor.. right after we done a 0-60... look at that face lol

I've got my armor on just in case

If she's not almost 5' or 80lbs, she shouldn't be sitting in the front - states' laws are antiquated, look at what most car seat organizations state

That's usually around age 12 for most kids