Review: Alcon Brakes for Gen 2

[Labrador3color]

Will the Brakes on Roush/Alcon Brakes on this site fit the Gen 2 Raptor? They are a whole lot cheaper than the Alcon 6 piston and I also believe different. Also based on the size rotor noted what size wheels are require. i love my truck with the exception of the brales.

 

[UrbanMenace]

Do you have the calipers with the 2 bolts from the top, or the 4 bolts from the side? I'm waiting on the brackets for the 4 on the side, but they're saying an April 23rd ship date now. If you have the 4 bolts from the side, you shouldn't need to grind anything.

What source are you using for the 4 bolt caliper brackets ? I'm only seeing the 2 bolt brackets on the Alcon website. Ah just noticed 2022 brackets.... You sure those will fit the Gen 2 front?

 

[Reaper308]

Put SS lines on your OEM brakes and you will feel a difference in how your pedal feel is. Because I got the SS lines in before my R1 rotors and pads and with just the lines done the pedal was much firmer and quicker to respond, then doing the rest of my mod with the R1’s made the stopping much better. But as I have said, I’m going to do the Alcon’s soon, as I believe you can’t go wrong with better braking if you like to drive briskly!

 

[UrbanMenace]

Purchased the last set on ebay Sunday. Arrived today in what appears to be Alcon packaging, no brackets. Roush brake package still available for sale on ebay.

Slightly discounted tie rod ends for electric steering: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2751550164...d=link&campid=5338805043&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

 

[raiderofthelostark]

stainless lines aren't necessary in 99.9% of cases. they just look cool.

They don't just look cool, they work better in pretty much all aspects and applications.

Necessary? Maybe not but there is merit to their function and reliability.

If you've never boiled brake fluid over at the track or otherwise you might be hard to convince but this isn't an area that I really ever recommend not upgrading if you're already looking at bigger brakes/rotors/pad options.

Put SS lines on your OEM brakes and you will feel a difference in how your pedal feel is. Because I got the SS lines in before my R1 rotors and pads and with just the lines done the pedal was much firmer and quicker to respond, then doing the rest of my mod with the R1’s made the stopping much better. But as I have said, I’m going to do the Alcon’s soon, as I believe you can’t go wrong with better braking if you like to drive briskly!

100%. It's not difficult nor expensive and you will feel the difference.

I build and have built a number of racecars. The needs of this truck aren't the same but I still wouldn't skimp on something as essential as brakes.

 

[Jakenbake]

if you can get them free, then sure put stainless brake lines in. otherwise, zero real world benefit.
when is the last time you had a brake line get worn through? yeah me neither.

sure the rest of the brake system can get upgraded, but if i guess if it makes a guy feel cooler with stainless lines. have at it.

zero performance difference

not having stainless lines isn't skimping.

They are just braided with stainless, the actual line should be a Teflon core which would swell like the rubber would when it gets hot.

 

[raiderofthelostark]

if you can get them free, then sure put stainless brake lines in. otherwise, zero real world benefit.
when is the last time you had a brake line get worn through? yeah me neither.

sure the rest of the brake system can get upgraded, but if i guess if it makes a guy feel cooler with stainless lines. have at it.

zero performance difference

not having stainless lines isn't skimping.

That isn't accurate at all and provides no value to anyone reading this.

25+ track and offroad events a year for the past decade. 1,000s of miles and laps = We see rubber brake lines fail multiple times in a season for various reasons across all brands. Lines expand, swell, bulge, get cut, and sometimes even burst.

SS lines work to prevent the above and are a worthwhile investment whether you are upgrading the entire system or not.

They are just braided with stainless, the actual line should be a Teflon core which would swell like the rubber would when it gets hot.

Most are built this way, or atleast the good ones. Crown SS Lines made for the Raptor are a Teflon core.

 

[Jakenbake]

That isn't accurate at all and provides no value to anyone reading this.

25+ track and offroad events a year for the past decade. 1,000s of miles and laps = We see rubber brake lines fail multiple times in a season for various reasons across all brands. Lines expand, swell, bulge, get cut, and sometimes even burst.

SS lines work to prevent the above and are a worthwhile investment whether you are upgrading the entire system or not.



Most are built this way, or atleast the good ones. Crown SS Lines made for the Raptor are a Teflon core.

Side note

My crown ones are the raptor plus one, but they have a different fitting on them (90 degree vs straight) so they are pretty long. Hopefully just long enough that I won’t need to swap them once my mid travel shows up.

 

[raptor556]

That isn't accurate at all and provides no value to anyone reading this.

25+ track and offroad events a year for the past decade. 1,000s of miles and laps = We see rubber brake lines fail multiple times in a season for various reasons across all brands. Lines expand, swell, bulge, get cut, and sometimes even burst.

SS lines work to prevent the above and are a worthwhile investment whether you are upgrading the entire system or not.



Most are built this way, or atleast the good ones. Crown SS Lines made for the Raptor are a Teflon core.

guess we all have opinions. don't much care what anyone else thinks.

stainless lines are not needed in the vast vast majority of cases. (note: most of us don't run baja offroad laps in races) and hardly anyone really cares to pay for them.

How many trucks have stainless lines from the factory, even as part of a package? (including the raptor)

exactly

 

[Nex]

guess we all have opinions. don't much care what anyone else thinks.

This is obvious.