Pedal Commander! Awesomeness!

[Gilligan]

Fat Rick loooooves hiding behind his oh so exclusive vendor account(Freedom changes reps more than I change my underwear), I’d say Freedom lost my business but that happened the day he was hired....

 

[Aaron]

Fat Rick loooooves hiding behind his oh so exclusive vendor account(Freedom changes reps more than I change my underwear), I’d say Freedom lost my business but that happened the day he was hired....

Interested to see if this is how vendors are allowed to act now...

 

[Gilligan]

Interested to see if this is how vendors are allowed to act now...

I'm sure they've always been able to act that way, it's just most others have been stand up guys so we havent had to cross this bridge before. The best are the threads where Rick comments from BOTH of his accounts just to agree with himself.

 

[Aaron]

I'm sure they've always been able to act that way, it's just most others have been stand up guys so we havent had to cross this bridge before. The best are the threads where Rick comments from BOTH of his accounts just to agree with himself.

People are watching, but nobody is saying anything.

 

[smurfslayer]

why cant we just go back to the good ole days where you use your ******* foot to accelerate.

F*ckin’ eh! just bring back the carbureted v8s and ditch that silly fuel injection cr@p.

Nah bruh, I've already bypassed my throttle and just installed an on/off toggle switch on top of my shifter. Now when I switch it on, I've got full throttle instantly and off cuts it to idle. It's the best! My 0-60 times are unheard of!

You a f*ckin’ poseur without the Juice, esse. You squeeze the nawz in the ‘bucks parking lot and barristas will show you -respect- homes.

More like the petty ******** is strong. Personally calling someone out like that under his vendor username is classy as ****.

Gilligan was up front with why he was selling the PC. Nobody got tricked or hoodwinked.

I'm honestly not inclined to even believe his claims of near universal JMS product returns after his shit slinging.

You know what though? Here's the bottom line to me as far as JMS vs PC goes. Pedal commander and their rep Jax have failed to speak to their testing of their product besides providing a meaningless CE cert that isn't even in english. JMS was more than happy to discuss their testing procedures, as well as compare and contrast the PC with their product both in construction and operation.

Several of the -I think it was boostmax- users had all manner of trouble with them and sent them back. posts all over the gen 2 engine subforum about them. I have no reason to disbelieve Freedom on this refund statement.

So it seems we have on one hand pedal commander having some Turkish CE “certification”(?) with one spectacular failure, resold and reused by another FRF member. @Gilligan, do we have the user you sold the PC to and have they reported any trouble with it?

OTOH, we have the ( boostmax? ) JMS add on that had numerous application failures even though JMS was happy to discuss their testing procedures... such as they are.

Did I leave anything out?

I’m only aware of Gilligans reported PC issue and the video is good evidence, but if it was repurposed on another compatible vehicle and that vehicle + Gilligan’s old PC hasn’t exhibited the problem or similar issues, that evidence points us away from the pedal commander as the cause or major contributor, wouldn’t you agree? Of course if the unit was installed and the vehicle began to exhibit similar behavior, yeah, evidence then points more strongly toward the PC, but that’s not a known right now.

Although seemingly unpopular, say what you will, but Rick’s post was at least topical. Unlike #dildogate, where Jimbo turned the place into a sh!tshow. Note, i did not say agreeable, nice, friendly or any other descriptor, just topical.

Tribalism, memes, jabs, ribbing, insults, pimp slapping and bullsh!tting aside, we won’t know about these issues unless they’re openly discussed and we can only really vet these issues if we don’t turn the threads into $hitshows. So, it would be helpful if we could find out if @Gilligans PC was repurposed and successfully used; that is, without the symptoms he reported OR if it also resulted in weird behavior on the subsequent vehicle it was installed on.

 

[MGD]

It was actually jms “pedalmax”.
The boostmax is a separate product they sell.

 

[Gilligan]

I personally don't think I had a defective unit, at least no more defective than any other unit meaning that it did what it was designed to do but may have unknown flaws that all units have, because if that was the case I wouldn't have sold it. I drove with it for over 6 months with no real issues. I do think the time of the large surge the signal got either mixed because the truck was confused with the change in settings after months of no change, or there were some outside factors that caused interference. That same exact parking lot my fob has about a 10ft range and the remote start never works. I'll try to track down the buyer(honestly not sure if it was here or fb so i'll have to read through messages later on) but unless a truck with a pedal commander tests in that same parking lot I still wouldn't be convinced it's not the unit.

Honestly the only person here with an opinion that matters is Kanakry because he knows this stuff, a response to his post by Pedal Commander or a vendor is really the only thing that can help clear the air.

 

[Aaron]

F*ckin’ eh! just bring back the carbureted v8s and ditch that silly fuel injection cr@p.



You a f*ckin’ poseur without the Juice, esse. You squeeze the nawz in the ‘bucks parking lot and barristas will show you -respect- homes.




Several of the -I think it was boostmax- users had all manner of trouble with them and sent them back. posts all over the gen 2 engine subforum about them. I have no reason to disbelieve Freedom on this refund statement.

So it seems we have on one hand pedal commander having some Turkish CE “certification”(?) with one spectacular failure, resold and reused by another FRF member. @Gilligan, do we have the user you sold the PC to and have they reported any trouble with it?

OTOH, we have the ( boostmax? ) JMS add on that had numerous application failures even though JMS was happy to discuss their testing procedures... such as they are.

Did I leave anything out?

I’m only aware of Gilligans reported PC issue and the video is good evidence, but if it was repurposed on another compatible vehicle and that vehicle + Gilligan’s old PC hasn’t exhibited the problem or similar issues, that evidence points us away from the pedal commander as the cause or major contributor, wouldn’t you agree? Of course if the unit was installed and the vehicle began to exhibit similar behavior, yeah, evidence then points more strongly toward the PC, but that’s not a known right now.

Although seemingly unpopular, say what you will, but Rick’s post was at least topical. Unlike #dildogate, where Jimbo turned the place into a sh!tshow. Note, i did not say agreeable, nice, friendly or any other descriptor, just topical.

Tribalism, memes, jabs, ribbing, insults, pimp slapping and bullsh!tting aside, we won’t know about these issues unless they’re openly discussed and we can only really vet these issues if we don’t turn the threads into $hitshows. So, it would be helpful if we could find out if @Gilligans PC was repurposed and successfully used; that is, without the symptoms he reported OR if it also resulted in weird behavior on the subsequent vehicle it was installed on.

How about another I just found on facebook?

 

[smurfslayer]

How about another I just found on facebook?

Ok, how about some attribution?

Gilligan’s was a 6.2 also, right? Was he also tuned? if so, was it also 5star? lots of sub-par reports of 5 star tunes on the 3.5.

A long time ago, before I bought my Mac10, I was trying to do research on known issues, problems, trouble spots, needed spares, etc. Everyone loudly proclaimed this to be the absolute bees knees submachine gun.
- “it eats everything you feed it”
- “you won’t have any problems”
- “I’ve shot hundreds of thousands of trouble free rounds”

you get the idea.

My NIB, unfired Mac wouldn’t even fire. after some fiddling, I got some inconsistent but successful results. Talking to the vendor, he had a suspicion about the bolt. we exchanged parts and that got things rolling, but I would still get bursts interrupted by the damned poorly fitting selector. Don’t get me wrong, it’s among my more fun guns to shoot...However:

statistically, it is the most unreliable firearm I’ve ever been exposed to and it will take probably over 100,000 more rounds fired to overcome that mathematically because I had so much initial trouble I did actually effect a repair that helped quite a bit with gorilla glue and a finishing nail (shimming the trigger “group” such as it is). Now I can run 20 mags through at a time without a hitch.

The point here is that internet sources are littered with people who don’t want to admit they got rooked, or made a mistake, or that their $hit isn’t the best $hit.

I like Gilligan’s video, it’s pretty instructive. Still, something Jax typed keeps bringing me back to what could the PC be doing to cause this surging? Or... was the truck surging before and the PC only made it worse?

 

[Aaron]

Ok, how about some attribution?

Gilligan’s was a 6.2 also, right? Was he also tuned? if so, was it also 5star? lots of sub-par reports of 5 star tunes on the 3.5.

A long time ago, before I bought my Mac10, I was trying to do research on known issues, problems, trouble spots, needed spares, etc. Everyone loudly proclaimed this to be the absolute bees knees submachine gun.
- “it eats everything you feed it”
- “you won’t have any problems”
- “I’ve shot hundreds of thousands of trouble free rounds”

you get the idea.

My NIB, unfired Mac wouldn’t even fire. after some fiddling, I got some inconsistent but successful results. Talking to the vendor, he had a suspicion about the bolt. we exchanged parts and that got things rolling, but I would still get bursts interrupted by the damned poorly fitting selector. Don’t get me wrong, it’s among my more fun guns to shoot...However:

statistically, it is the most unreliable firearm I’ve ever been exposed to and it will take probably over 100,000 more rounds fired to overcome that mathematically because I had so much initial trouble I did actually effect a repair that helped quite a bit with gorilla glue and a finishing nail (shimming the trigger “group” such as it is). Now I can run 20 mags through at a time without a hitch.

The point here is that internet sources are littered with people who don’t want to admit they got rooked, or made a mistake, or that their $hit isn’t the best $hit.

I like Gilligan’s video, it’s pretty instructive. Still, something Jax typed keeps bringing me back to what could the PC be doing to cause this surging? Or... was the truck surging before and the PC only made it worse?

No attribution. It's not my post and I personally blacked out all the names because I don't know that they want to be involved.

5-star had what was considered to be the go-to gen1 tune for a long time. I don't know what happened with them when the gen2 came along though. I also don't know if @Gilligan was running a tune or what one.

This whole thing is pointless to be completely honest. PC fans will continue to defend its honor, and those of us that question it will continue to question. It just ends in a circle jerk on both sides. I honestly just wanted to see that they'd properly tested it to make sure it wasn't unsafe. That's not unreasonable. JMS (Whatever the faults with their product) performs EMC tests and is knowledgeable about OEM requirements and parts approval processes. PC hasn't showed any of that to be true. Am I really asking too much? I guess so.