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[kdub405]

@Pedal Commander maybe you should get rid of all your dealers and distribute through amazon to stop all of this childish nonsense. MAP pricing policies are annoying as shit just tell us what the price is and where to buy it at that price.

I think they add to the childishness by coming onto the forums and getting involved in a *** for tat argument. Seems like a poor way to run a company!


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[ZaneMasterX]

Until you try one, you will never know for sure. Because you think you know but you don't. It makes a difference that your foot cannot do. You have nothing to lose to try it as they offer a 14 day money back guarantee, so until you do Zaney your comments are invalid.

Please enlighten me how I'm wrong in how it works because I just described exactly what it does, it's not rocket science.

Also PC just walked around Aarons comment about this forum not getting a discount code with a weak ass response that "we have it good because we have Raptors" which is a nice way of saying "**** you and pay the Raptor tax" which is BS.

 

[Deleted member 12951]

Please enlighten me how I'm wrong in how it works because I just described exactly what it does, it's not rocket science.

Until you try one, you will never know for sure. Because you think you know but you don't. It makes a difference that your foot cannot do. You have nothing to lose to try it as they offer a 14 day money back guarantee, so until you do Zaney your comments are invalid.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Until you try one, you will never know for sure. Because you think you know but you don't. It makes a difference that your foot cannot do. You have nothing to lose to try it as they offer a 14 day money back guarantee, so until you do Zaney your comments are invalid.

PC openly pushes the Raptor tax, that's more than enough for me to not support it.

PC is not a tune, it doesn't add power, it doesn't do shit other than "throttle response" which is their way of saying it opens your throttle more than what your pedal angle shows.

I'll wait for a legit tune that actually does something productive instead of perceived performance.

 

[svc]

Just so everyone knows. I put in a call to Jarrett at @svc and we talked about things, hashed it out and shook hands over the phone. There will be no more back and forth, price wars or otherwise between SVC and Freedom Motorsports. In the end, we are both reputable companies in the Raptor community and the drama does none of us any good. So that part of things is good to go and anyone that wants a @Pedal Commander should contact their favorite vendor to get one at the price that that specific vendor will offer them.

Really can't add anything more to the discussion beyond what Chris said. We've known each other a long time, figured out what's best for us, and will do our best to keep up with new an innovative ways to keep your business within the Raptor community. Amazon and other forums don't go to Raptor runs, interact with the end user, or will pick up the phone to help with tech support. Both Chris and myself apologize for any unwanted drama. It's not who we are, nor strive to be. Pedal Commander offers a really good product that greatly increases the drivability of our trucks and should not be looked down upon because of a temporary spat between two vendors. Everyone is just trying to make a living in the field that they love. Nothing more.

 

[Deleted member 12951]

PC is not a tune, it doesn't add power, it doesn't do shit other than "throttle response" which is their way of saying it opens your throttle more than what your pedal angle shows.

I'll wait for a legit tune that actually does something productive instead of perceived performance.

Until you try one, you will never know for sure. Because you think you know but you don't. It makes a difference that your foot cannot do. You have nothing to lose to try it as they offer a 14 day money back guarantee, so until you do Zaney your comments are invalid. We can play this game all day....

 

[smurfslayer]

Me:
...stepping on the market place to ensure we don’t get a bargain or access to a sale in a public way kind of has an alienating effect, doesn’t it?

Pedal commander:
This is what WAS going to happen as a result of the childish "price cutting" that was going on between my dealers. I stepped in and said that wouldn't be fair. SVC and Freedom and ANY of my other dealers can post "10% off orders on our website this weekend for Labor Day!!!" just like I can.

I’ll admit, I don’t have a macro economics degree, but in all my studies, and all my travels I have to admit I cannot fathom a way that the alleged “childish price cutting” was going to alienate the buying public, or do anything other than enhance the market.

Sale generates interest, turning a higher percentage of ‘maybes’ into ‘yes’ and more units sold. These units sold, translate into good PR for the product, encouraging others to take the rather steep for what it is, plunge.

Or, you can create a situation in which vendors yank the deals, requiring a minimum price that it appears others - at least Tacomas- aren’t subject to at the expense of your public reputation.

Even those of us who aren’t particularly happy at the current revelations, including me; currently on the record encouraging your (general, not personal) self fornication still maintain the product is an improvement and even sing its praises.

Please, explain to us, the great unwashed who simply don’t understand how this price cutting was a bad thing, was in fact a bad thing.

I may not have an economics degree, but one thing I do understand well is messaging to a demographic to advance or defend a political position, and your position here is a very, very steep hill to climb. Like it or not, sale prices are seen by consumers as a sort of given and the 2 supporting vendors here seemed to me to be doing what supporting vendors do for a community such as FRF - offer discounts, make sales. There are a lot of cheapskate buyers out there, like me, who will wait for a sale to buy a commodity. The affordable care act is a close parallel here; the Republicans just learned really hard lesson in just how difficult it is to take away a government entitlement. It’s political suicide. We kind of expect discounts on stuff from supporting vendors as part of the supporting vendor deal. It’s a nice perk of having to put up with sasquatch77’s bordering on unhinged hatred for all things ecoboost and his/her sheer delight when someone has a problem with their Raptor. We need supporting vendors to develop and offer products for our trucks and the sales, discounts and specials on products we have come to expect.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Until you try one, you will never know for sure. Because you think you know but you don't. It makes a difference that your foot cannot do. You have nothing to lose to try it as they offer a 14 day money back guarantee, so until you do Zaney your comments are invalid. We can play this game all day....

And I can give legit reasons why not to buy it over and over.

My truck has zero issues ripping the tires loose when traction control is off and when it's on its not hard to get TC intervention. I don't need to go from 0 to WOT with an inch of throttle input. My tires are already getting trashed after 1400 miles so I don't need a gimmick to help that along.

 

[svc]

And I can give legit reasons why not to buy it over and over.

My truck has zero issues ripping the tires loose when traction control is off and when it's on its not hard to get TC intervention. I don't need to go from 0 to WOT with an inch of throttle input. My tires are already getting trashed after 1400 miles so I don't need a gimmick to help that along.

Just a quick question. I can fully understand your feeling of not needing any more throttle response off the line, but do you use your truck in the dirt in off-road mode?

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Just a quick question. I can fully understand your feeling of not needing any more throttle response off the line, but do you use your truck in the dirt in off-road mode?

Half of my total miles are on dirt, deep snow, and packed snow roads. On snow super aggressive throttle response isn't exactly what you need especially on ice at speed.