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Sure there aren't any air leaks downstream of your MAF? Filter oil gunking up MAF? Did you try disconnecting the battery and resetting your idle trim per the manual? Better yet have u removed your intake and return to stock?

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I am removing CAI.. I have doubled checked all boots/elbows on cai.. Not cracks or issues found with it.

noticed digging through old threads there was an issue with 2010-2011 6.2 with CPV (canister purge valve) and definitely have loud ticking from rear of intake.

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I'd look at the maf sensor and see if its dirty. The symptoms don't add up for a head gasket issue. More like a sensor or pcm problem. Did it have the same engine mods last winter? If you got real desperate you could get a scanner that will display miss fire counts for a few hundred bucks and see if the problem is isolated to one cylinder or all of them. That would give you a direction to start in diagnosing it.
 

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Are you running an oiled filter? If so was it recently cleaned when problem started occurring?
 
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I'd look at the maf sensor and see if its dirty. The symptoms don't add up for a head gasket issue. More like a sensor or pcm problem. Did it have the same engine mods last winter? If you got real desperate you could get a scanner that will display miss fire counts for a few hundred bucks and see if the problem is isolated to one cylinder or all of them. That would give you a direction to start in diagnosing it.

That is what I am thinking.. Engine mods have been on the truck since new (300 miles). No issues until this winter.. Thinking about using a data logger to see if I can catch it.





Are you running an oiled filter? If so was it recently cleaned when problem started occurring?

Afe dry filter

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That is what I am thinking.. Engine mods have been on the truck since new (300 miles). No issues until this winter.. Thinking about using a data logger to see if I can catch it.







Afe dry filter

-Greg


Gotcha. If you can data log it and catch some info that'd be good. If its isolated to one cylinder you can usually narrow it down to an item pertaining to just that hole like a injector, or coil or intake leak around that runner or bad driver circuit in the pcm. Sometimes you'll show two or three cylinders missing that are next to each other in the firing order. It could actually only be the one cylinder dropping out but the pcm will count the other cylinders next to it because the engine rpm is fluctuating so bad its having trouble picking out the one cylinder. Usually the cylinder actually missing will have a much higher miss fire count then the others. If its a whole cylinder bank having problems look at the o2 sensor for that bank. If all the cylinders are randomly missing look at mass air flow, manifold absolute/baro, coolant temp, crank position, purge valve sensors
 
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Gotcha. If you can data log it and catch some info that'd be good. If its isolated to one cylinder you can usually narrow it down to an item pertaining to just that hole like a injector, or coil or intake leak around that runner or bad driver circuit in the pcm. Sometimes you'll show two or three cylinders missing that are next to each other in the firing order. It could actually only be the one cylinder dropping out but the pcm will count the other cylinders next to it because the engine rpm is fluctuating so bad its having trouble picking out the one cylinder. Usually the cylinder actually missing will have a much higher miss fire count then the others. If its a whole cylinder bank having problems look at the o2 sensor for that bank. If all the cylinders are randomly missing look at mass air flow, manifold absolute/baro, coolant temp, crank position, purge valve sensors

Why does it stop in closed loop? I am thinking it is a vac leak or unmetered air causing closest cylinder to run lean. The computer compensating by enriching mixture causing stumbling in other cylinders.

Maybe unrelated but I have been noticing a large amount of water coming out of all of exhaust.. At tips, muffler, ball joint.. Enough to leave puddles under the whole exhaust system..

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Why does it stop in closed loop? I am thinking it is a vac leak or unmetered air causing closest cylinder to run lean. The computer compensating by enriching mixture causing stumbling in other cylinders.

Maybe unrelated but I have been noticing a large amount of water coming out of all of exhaust.. At tips, muffler, ball joint.. Enough to leave puddles under the whole exhaust system..

-Greg

A vacuum leak is a possibility but my thought on that is if its running badly enough to back fire thru the intake to the point it blows the air filter off, it a decent size leak. One that size would affect the engine at any temperature/open loop/close loop. The leaks I ran into when at the runner would either be really bad and obvious because you could hear them and the engine would run like shit all the time, or so small the miss fire was very random and subtle. Temperature and metal expansion could affect the amount leaking but I just don't think enough. I wouldnt rule it off the table but just not what I've experienced in the past.

In open loop the pcm isn't applying what the o2 sensors are measuring. So if there was a vacuum leak at the runner and the o2 sensor was picking up the excessive oxygen, the pcm wouldn't richen up that bank until it went into closed loop. So its kinda backwards to your problem.

Why it does it, or appears to be doing it, only in open loop points me towards the metering being done on the other end. In open loop the pcm is running on base programming maps only being adjusted by what the maf, map/baro, rpm, and temperature sensors are seeing. Its half blind because the process can't really see the reaction to the inputs without the o2 sensor data. So say a maf sensor is giving slightly skewed data, the pcm applies it to the fuel and timing maps and all "should" be well. But when the o2 data starts coming in the pcm see's that its not all well and it adjusts accordingly and engine runs fine/better. But it could also be a problem in the PCM. They do go bad sometimes.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about the water coming from the exhaust. Its most likely condensation. The O2s are mounted so water wont sit and collect on them. And again I don't believe you have a head gasket problem or other issue causing coolant to make it into the exhaust.
 

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Greg. If you suspect a vacuum leak, a good Way to find it is a smoke machine. That is what I use. Most auto shops have one. Saved me more than a few times. Remove the air intake at the throttle body and cap it. Add the smoke at a vacuum port.


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