Made in china?

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SVTRay

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We might actually get back to capitalism here!!!

You better hurry before your industry vacates the state. XCOR out of Mojave California just announced their moving to my home town in West Texas. My guess is they want be the last California based company to leave.
 

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I run multiple businesses and have utilized China as well as US manufacturing/labor. In the metal fabrication sector, the same product sourced domestically is usually more than double the cost of China. On simple, wide tolerance construction products the savings is worth utilizing China. On more complex, tight tolerance, high specification products it is worth paying more than double to deal with an American domestically, because you will spend the savings by outsourcing to China in rejected product, missed deadlines and carrying costs.

What people need to realize is that China is a tool that can be used to meet market demands. Sometimes it is worth it to the company and end user and sometimes it is not. Everything has positives and negatives to both the company sourcing the parts and to the end user using the finished good.

It's a global market now and people in general need to get over their stereotypes, however businesses also need to realize that some products can be made abroad and sometimes JIT manufacturing and easy communication will make up for the cost savings.

China is not a silver bullet to make your business successful. And in the same vein, utilizing only USA made suppliers can put you out of business if you cannot compete with your competitors.
 
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Even roush wheels etc are made in China, unfortunately damn near everything is made there. I did read somewhere that the ford mustang has more American made parts than any other vehicle. My blood bleeds ford blue but i really wish more USA made parts where used but if my new 13 Raptor was 100% American made it wud b a $100k truck.
 

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Even roush wheels etc are made in China, unfortunately damn near everything is made there. I did read somewhere that the ford mustang has more American made parts than any other vehicle. My blood bleeds ford blue but i really wish more USA made parts where used but if my new 13 Raptor was 100% American made it wud b a $100k truck.

One of my clients (had been VERY high up the corporate ladder) retired from the auto industry (one of the big three) less than five years ago and recently told me most of the "made in China" parts in a typical US light truck account for less than 5% ACTUAL savings to the manufacturer vs American sourced parts. However, that number rises after adjusting it to maintain / increase margins and many former US suppliers are no longer in business...Very vicious circle we are in and it MUST stop or we WILL become a third world country...
 

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Very vicious circle we are in and it MUST stop or we WILL become a third world country...

I don't agree with that. People are always talking in these extremes and that is crazy talk. Again China... outsourcing in general is a tool that can be used to meet market demands and trust me it comes with it's own challenges. Eventually, wages will rise, fuel cost will make it prohibitive to ship containers of product across the ocean and it may in the short future become a better BUSINESS decision to seek out domestic suppliers. But it's not a shift that is going to happen overnight.

You have to understand it is not the businesses that are outsourcing that should be looked at like demons. The lazy, entitled US population is to blame as well. I know many fabrication and machine shops locally that are busier than they have ever been, record setting years and they cannot find welders, fabricators, brake operators, etc. that will show up for work, pass a drug test or stick around for more than a few months.

And if they could, then it next falls on the government to help incentivise businesses for hiring and growing domestic production.

The last person that should be demonized is the business just trying to compete!!!!!!!!!!!:sunot:
 

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JMann, said perfectly. I own multiple biz as well and it's easier for lazy employees to sit on their couch, collect their govt ck and not work. Our current Pres. has pushed to keep this entiltment citizen, why bc they will vote him back in, other wise god forbid they would have to get a job. Christ, I could go on forever about these worthless *****. Sorry to thread jack. Out
 
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