Let’s be honest- The Raptor R is going to be expensive!

[CoronaRaptor]

Bronco does not have the mid bar.
Jeep owners don't have enough grey matter to damage....

 

[SilverBolt]

I just want to see the Raptor "R" motor slipped into a regular cab short bed 2wd and make a real Lightning. That is where that power belongs.

 

[melvimbe]

Oh c'mon man you know the answer to that just like I do. It makes perfect sense and even Ford knows that most these posers in Raptors dont see as much ss a dirt drive. They are building it because there is a crowd in this segment that has the " I need a V8 in a full size truck" " a truck needs a V8" " it just has to have that V8 sound" mentality.

While I get why the 'true' offroader types don't care for the mall crawling crowd, I seriously doubt that a Raptor would have been made and seriously invested in by Ford if it didn't appeal to a wider audience beyond the hardcore offroaders.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

The market is trending in multiple and opposite directions at the same time. There clearly is a significant market for V8 gas guzzlers and Ford and Dodge will sell every TRX/Raptor R they make. And there clearly is a market for all electric vehicles.




I don't get why that isn't enough. Lots of people on here have stated that they want more HP and a V8, and really don't care much about cost, MPG, etc. People are going to buy it, that's why it's being built.



I don't think it will be much beyond a Raptor, other than V8 and anything necessary to accommodate the V8. That's also why they are making some cosmetic changes...so you feel like you're getting more.

It sounds like you're looking for practicality and utility in every feature of a vehicle, and while that's the case often, the reality is that people often buy vehicles with features they have no use for because they like the impression and the idea that they could. I'll be honest, I don't need a Raptor. I use mine as DD, light hauling at home depot, and light off road. I could have gotten an F150 lariat for those needs, but I didn't because I wanted a Raptor for it's looks, luxury, and bit more fun to drive.

I was sold on my Raptor because of the videos Ford put out showing it racing through the desert and in the dunes, I already had a new f150, but went googleee-eyed when the advertising started, had nothing to do with luxury, in Canada you couldn't get a lower tiered Raptor like you guys, it came with leather, etc, only options were sunroof and nav and I think the trailer brake. Plus they were marketing the Raptor R back then and when a fully loaded Raptor was 58k (Canada) and the Raptor R (xt) was going to be 100k US, it wasn't just more horsepower either, it was loaded with offroad equipment, lights rollbar, etc. Here we are 12 years later and Ford is talking about a Raptor R again and maybe they will just add a V8, but at least you know where my brain fart idea is coming from. I would think Ford, if they produce the R, will do more than what Dudge is doing and make it a Dudge Killer, not an equal.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Oh c'mon man you know the answer to that just like I do. It makes perfect sense and even Ford knows that most these posers in Raptors dont see as much ss a dirt drive. They are building it because there is a crowd in this segment that has the " I need a V8 in a full size truck" " a truck needs a V8" " it just has to have that V8 sound" mentality.


I would bet my outdated gen 2 against your outdated Gen 1 that ppl would be more like to buy a raptor R if it had less off road potential and more hp/better 0-60 times than a trx vs making it a full on off road Scab no backseats 16in of travel V8 that was unbearable to drive on pavement because of it's off road setup.

I'm not going to bet you, because your Jennie probably has spilled Latte's in the carpet, bahaha. You maybe right, but then again, I might be too. Ford needs to build the thing first, I've been fooled before. Hell, with no more pipelines being built, where are you going to get gas to fill it up. Don't get me wrong, if they just added a v8 to a Gen 3 and I was looking to get one, I would throw the cash at the salesman too! No questions! I'm just thinking if Ford wanted a v8 in a Raptor they would of added it as an option by now. I'm hoping and praying it's going to be something more than lipstick and mascara!

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Pretty sure that both the Bronco and Jeep do not refer to them officially as roll bars.

I don't honestly know, for sure, but I do know that it saved me and my sons life when we flipped upside down and skidded on the "rollbar" for 30feet. Was still a write-off but without that safety feature, I might not be here to argue with ya, lol.

 

[melvimbe]

I was sold on my Raptor because of the videos Ford put out showing it racing through the desert and in the dunes, I already had a new f150, but went googleee-eyed when the advertising started, had nothing to do with luxury, in Canada you couldn't get a lower tiered Raptor like you guys, it came with leather, etc, only options were sunroof and nav and I think the trailer brake.

But you know you aren't the typical Raptor buyer, right? I completely get that there are many who get a Raptor purely to offroad but they are closer to an exception that rule.

Plus they were marketing the Raptor R back then and when a fully loaded Raptor was 58k (Canada) and the Raptor R (xt) was going to be 100k US, it wasn't just more horsepower either, it was loaded with offroad equipment, lights rollbar, etc. Here we are 12 years later and Ford is talking about a Raptor R again and maybe they will just add a V8, but at least you know where my brain fart idea is coming from. I would think Ford, if they produce the R, will do more than what Dudge is doing and make it a Dudge Killer, not an equal.

While I get that logic, Ford's trend lately is to reuse brand names and such like 'Lightning', 'Mustang', and 'R' and have it mean something entirely different, or atleast slightly different, then it did when when brand was originally used.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

But you know you aren't the typical Raptor buyer, right? I completely get that there are many who get a Raptor purely to offroad but they are closer to an exception that rule.




While I get that logic, Ford's trend lately is to reuse brand names and such like 'Lightning', 'Mustang', and 'R' and have it mean something entirely different, or atleast slightly different, then it did when when brand was originally used.

Yes, I agree, most Raptor owners sip latte's, so I guess, your logic is, most people think the R version will have massaging, fully reclining seats, self driving mode so they can apply their lipstick, 30inch tv screen mirrored on the windshield so they can watch "Jersey Housewives", heated/cooled arm rest, massaging foot pedals. Oh gosh, I'm getting carried away, Ford, please don't do this to the R!!

 

[Frank N]

If there was no TRX, there would be no R....kind of tells you where Ford is going with the R.

that’s my 2 cents...and if I add it to all the other 2 cents posted here on the R, I could swing a 50k ADM...

 

[Chainsaw]

Here are some numbers from the TRX side that are a useful hint for what Ford will do with the R.

The TRX comes in 3 trim levels, with price ranges shown depending on other options added:

- Base (about 70-75k)
- Level 1 (75k-85k)
- Level 2 (85k-95k)

To date, about 10,500 TRXs have been built. Here is the split between the packages:

- Base: 415 built, or 4% (!)
- Level 1: 1334 built, or 13%
- Level 2: 8840 built, or 83%

As you can see, there is virtually no market for a base TRX. The vast, vast majority of TRXs built are loaded.

If Ford looks at these numbers, it is hard to justify offering an R that is anything less than loaded.

I still stand by my prediction that the R will NOT be offered with 37s, and will be priced 10-15k above a loaded 35s... so about 90k.