ICON 3.0 Suspension upgrade

[ICONRep]

I will say this... ICON is still running stock springs and bump stops on their test truck with no problems or issues. My personal preference is to have some sort of bump stop or frame protection, just in case..

-Greg

We are currently running stock springs and no bump stops or frame gussets. Raptor has been well used and everything looks pretty strait and in great working condition. We will be adding an ICON Hydraulic Bump Stop Kit in the near future.

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Just trying to wrap my head around the way ICON's UCA's work and the correct way to adjust them. So far from what I understand the sleeve part with the holes in it has a slot in it which must line up with the pinch seam before tightening the pinch seam bolts. the collar is actually a cylinder that is threaded on the outside to screw into the UCA and also threaded on the inside so that the Heim can tread into it. If I am correct I think you would adjust the two Heims to approximately the right length before installing the UCA then fine tune with the collar for alignment, but the minimum you can turn the collar is one full rotation so that the pinch seams line up.
I will also post a picture of another style of UCA for comparison.

Justvettn - You pretty much nailed it. Best to line up the seams like you mentioned, but if you were not able to, they will still tighten down secure. You would want to also re-check the 12 point pinch bolts soon after installation to make sure they are still tight. For adjustment of the sleeve, it moves about 1/8" either direction for every full turn. Never a bad idea to add a little anti seize to the threads as well when ever they are apart. We are implementing this from the ICON factory now so they will already be set to install the first time. Ideal adjustment setting for the sleeve and heim you will want to have the adjustment sleeve and heim to be equally threaded into the arm (adjustment collar threads) and into the sleeve (heim threads)

 

[ManleyORV]

We are currently running stock springs and no bump stops or frame gussets. Raptor has been well used and everything looks pretty strait and in great working condition. We will be adding an ICON Hydraulic Bump Stop Kit in the new future.

From your personal experience, do you feel like you are giving up much by running the stock leaf springs?

 

[ICONRep]

From your personal experience, do you feel like you are giving up much by running the stock leaf springs?

ManleyORV - From Dylan our head engineer who has developed the ICON Raptor suspension products and also does all the testing on and off road stated this:

The ICON rear shock has far more energy capacity than the factory shock and therefore absorbs / dissipates much of the hard bottoming energy before the suspension impacts the frame. This will greatly "reduce" (not eliminate) the likelihood of the frame bending under extreme suspension hits to the factory bump stop. Extreme situations you could benefit from the additional hydraulic bump stop which we will develop in the near future.

The stock rear spring has the advantage of load carrying capacity over a aftermarket pack without an overload leaf. The stock style overload leaf is a disadvantage of compliant up travel when off-roading which in some cases can cause the rear to kick a bit more. As our ICON shock will control a lot of this "kick" it will not get rid of it all in every situation. So there is an advantage to using an aftermarket spring for particular situations.

We actually towed our ICON Jeep JK to the SEMA show last week while also driving the Raptor around town, so in our situation we like the diversity of this set up. We may change it around when we intend on using the truck for other purposes in the future. Everyone will use the Raptor in a different way so you will need to look at what is best for you and the way you use your truck.

 

[justvettn]

We are currently running stock springs and no bump stops or frame gussets. Raptor has been well used and everything looks pretty strait and in great working condition. We will be adding an ICON Hydraulic Bump Stop Kit in the near future.

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Justvettn - You pretty much nailed it. Best to line up the seams like you mentioned, but if you were not able to, they will still tighten down secure. You would want to also re-check the 12 point pinch bolts soon after installation to make sure they are still tight. For adjustment of the sleeve, it moves about 1/8" either direction for every full turn. Never a bad idea to add a little anti seize to the threads as well when ever they are apart. We are implementing this from the ICON factory now so they will already be set to install the first time. Ideal adjustment setting for the sleeve and heim you will want to have the adjustment sleeve and heim to be equally threaded into the arm (adjustment collar threads) and into the sleeve (heim threads)

OK, is this what is meant by having the adjustment sleeve and heim equally threaded into the arm? (see attached picture) If so what would be recommended? for example, 3 full turns out on the sleeve and 3 full turns out on the heim.

 

[ICONRep]

OK, is this what is meant by having the adjustment sleeve and heim equally threaded into the arm? (see attached picture) If so what would be recommended? for example, 3 full turns out on the sleeve and 3 full turns out on the heim.

Let me take a look at our Raptor in the morning and also talk with Dylan to give you accurate info....I will let you know ASAP.

 

[justvettn]

Let me take a look at our Raptor in the morning and also talk with Dylan to give you accurate info....I will let you know ASAP.

Thanks! that will make it easier, the more info the better before I install.
Also I assume that I would loosen up the pinch bolts before turning out the collar?

 

[ICONRep]

OK, is this what is meant by having the adjustment sleeve and heim equally threaded into the arm? (see attached picture) If so what would be recommended? for example, 3 full turns out on the sleeve and 3 full turns out on the heim.

Justvettn - Talked with Dylan and looked at our Raptor (it was gone yesterday with the owner using it) and ours is set right about where you have it maybe one turn in on the heims into the sleeve. Set the distance similar to match the stock length and then adjust on the truck as needed when they do the alignment. So that may lead you to an adjustment with 2 turns on the adjuster and 1-2 on the heim. As long as they are close to even Everything will be good, doesn't have to be turn for turn.