GEN 2 First oil change

[fx4210]

Ethanol (E85 or any blend) is free horsepower when tuned for it.

In the BMW's we mess with, we run them on various blends (E40,E50,E85) and they make BIG power on "pump" gas.

It's a flex fuel system, its designed to adapt. If you're gonna tow, keep it premium fuel, as I suspect the fuel system has a hard time keeping up with full E85 under heavy loads (although a tune should be able to use the full ability of E85 pretty easily I suspect)


only downside is seeing your mileage drop about 30%

Sorry I think you misunderstood the kind of fuel I was talking about. I meant Ethanol Free Gas as in no ethanol mixed in. I don't think the Gen 2 raptors are flex fuel, are they?

 

[halogrinder]

Sorry I think you misunderstood the kind of fuel I was talking about. I meant Ethanol Free Gas as in no ethanol mixed in. I don't think the Gen 2 raptors are flex fuel, are they?

Same stuff. Same thing applies.
edited for clarity: when tuned E85 is useable but not directly.

 

[ogdobber]

Gotcha, I'll definitely keep it in mind. like I said I haven't gotten the manual in hand so I'll have to read up either way.



I know this is an oil thread but thoughts on ethanol free I have it here locally? Which do you think would be of most benefit?

It's not a flex fuel system! Only designed for e10. Ethanol free will net you the best mpg and power...
IF it was tuned for e85 you would easily see 50+ hp... But it's not so don't use it without a tune

As far as oil, go with what ford recommends, full synthetic. And ~8000 mile intervals (whatever the oil reset comp says) unless you are offroading a lot then cut that in half... The oil reset can compensate for heavy driving, but can't tell dusty environments

People that are changing less than 5k are throwing money away. Oils are waaay better today than the 3k interval our dads taught us about


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[fx4210]

It's not a flex fuel system! Only designed for e10. Ethanol free will net you the best mpg and power...
IF it was tuned for e85 you would easily see 50+ hp... But it's not so don't use it without a tune

Ok that's what I thought. I'll run ethanol free whenever I can.

Thanks for the tip on the intervals I guess tech has changed I'll read up on it. I appreciate the help

 

[jaz13]

It seems a lot of people in this thread believe following the manufacturer's guidelines will result in an engine that barely lasts 100k miles.

But the other thing I know is the average age of a car in this country is nearly 12 years. An impressive stats like that makes it reasonable to assume around half of the cars on the road have more than 100k miles on them.

For the frequent oil change crowd to be right, they also need to believe the vast majority of Americans change their oil more frequently than the manufacture recommends. Otherwise it would be impossible to have 100 million cars on the road with more than 100k miles on the odometer.

Maybe I'm the only cynical one here, but I would be surprised if the average driver changed their oil at the manufacturer's suggested interval, let alone did it more frequently than recommended. Yet here we are with cars lasting longer than they ever have. It's gotten to the point seeing a car with 200k miles is nothing special because it is so common.

Either the average American is far more responsible than I give them credit for, or oil is a lot more durable than some people in this thread believe.

 

[dlbb]

Gotcha, I'll definitely keep it in mind. like I said I haven't gotten the manual in hand so I'll have to read up either way.

I know this is an oil thread but thoughts on ethanol free I have it here locally? Which do you think would be of most benefit?

have no thoughts on it at all, lol i just use 91 from chevron and call it good. don't even know the difference tbh.

https://owner.ford.com/tools/accoun...html?type=ymm&year=2017&make=Ford&model=F-150 here is the online manual if u want to start reading it lol.

 

[fx4210]

have no thoughts on it at all, lol i just use 91 from chevron and call it good. don't even know the difference tbh.

https://owner.ford.com/tools/accoun...html?type=ymm&year=2017&make=Ford&model=F-150 here is the online manual if u want to start reading it lol.

Thanks for the link!

 

[Carnut]

Did my 1st oil change today. 2400 miles. I used a Motorcraft filter and Mobile 1 5/30. I've changed oil in a LOT of vehicles and this one is a mess. The truck uses a 1/2 turn plastic plug which when removed drops oil like mad. It's a 1" hole so if your oil is hot imagine a hose turned on full bore- the oil pan/collection gizmo couldn't keep up and oil went everywhere. Then, the oil drain area below the filter does absolutely nothing! Maybe if your truck was on a steep decline... otherwise it's going out behind the drain thing and all over everything behind it. Seems Ford could have done a better job designing this.

 

[Monster]

:rubs temples:

What I'm saying is, engineers make mistakes. They aren't perfect. If they were and designed things perfectly, nothing would ever break

Engineers making mistakes or not being perfect has nothing to do with things lasting forever. If a vehicle was designed/engineered to never break no one would be able to afford it. The design process, testing, materials, and manufacturering needed to produce a vehicle that can't break or wear out would cost more than people could afford.

 

[lottp]

I hesitantly took the truck in for the first service since complementary. Although I normally do all service myself, I figured it might be good to let them go through everything just to make sure everything is still good from the factory.

Apparently, my hesitation was justified when I got my truck back drenched in oil all over the bottom and the entirety of my front passenger wheel well and suspension parts (likely due to the drop angle from the lift). I know these things can make a mess, but it is on the service department to at least clean up after themselves if they aren’t creative enough to minimize the mess.

Although the oil was a disappointment, the real problem was that they cross-threaded 2 of the bolts and clips for the skid plate access panel. While looking under the truck, I could easily see them skewed and not properly seated to the panel. When looking at the opposite side, I could see the clips bent and cross-threaded. They obviously pushed in and torqued them down with power tools without first threading them by hand to start correctly.

I’m having them replace the bolts and clips, but I’m putting them in. I already re-threaded the ones I have to get by while I wait for the parts to come in. I’m also not letting them touch anything else, since I need to remove the skid plates to clean up the mess. I can only imagine what else they could screw up.

I should have trusted my gut and not took it in to begin with.