Ray, I agree, as I have had several Stangs over the years, and have three kids, grown now but whatever. So the question I have is, did you try the cab with your son in back, and was that to small? I mean you own the cab now? I think if you put your son in the back of a crew there is almost a double edge sword that is is SO FAR back that its almost TOOOOO far back LOL. I know there are reasons, and I know the crew will sell to a select market, but if I was buying the Raptor, and the main selling point was a CREW, you may be better off buying a FX4 and saving a few grand! Just seems silly to pay for the off road options, in a crew length truck, when the FX4 in a crew would probably perform the same or better? Who knows... I am more or less going to keep mine on the road so who am I to judge LOL...