1. It's a modified 5.4. Not a brand new engine platform. I didn't say the 4.6 and 5.4 were the same engine. Stop making Shit up to argue about. I didn't say the 5.0 and 6.2 were similar, I said they shared a bunch of the new technology, learn to read.
I'm asking what technology the 6.2 and 5.0 share.
And if you want to believe that they are taking 5.4 blocks and boring them out to make 5.8's down an assembly line than so be it. The 5.8 does share the 5.4's main architecture and the extra displacement is achieved by increasing the 5.4's bore, but the point remains, that a huge amount of money was spent on engineering efforts to design the new block, and develop the new machining process. I'm not saying they started with a blank sheet of paper and came up with a 5.8. Pretty much every new engine now days has evolved from some older engine. What I'm saying is that the investment to develop the evolved engine does cost a pretty penny, and by utilizing it in multiple platforms they maximize their return on investment.
2. Its not that complicated.
Umm... Speaking of apples to donkeys, this whole ****** pointless argument is you comparing the 6.2 to an imaginary engine, how's that for dragons to school busses?
Make up your mind, is the 5.8 real or imaginary? Because all of the press releases for the 2013 Shelby are pretty real. Heck here's a pic for ya...
Now you don't have to imagine it! BTW recheck the thread topic, this is 2013 Raptor discussions. It's ALL imaginary! There is no 2013 Raptor. So this whole thread is discussion on what we think may be in it
If it were so simple why didn't ford just build the 5.8 from the beginning? Oh that's right, the 5.4 that the 5.8 was modified from was axe'd for the 5.0 and 6.2.
English?
3. If you're that worried about weight you probably shouldn't buy the Raptor. Everything about it weighs more. A v6 f150 sounds more your style.
Oh man, let me guess, every post that pops up about guys saying they wish their truck got better mileage, you post in them saying they should have gotten a Prius don't you? I didn't realize you were one of those guys who can only think on one extreme or the other lol. It's even funnier in this case because dropping weight also improves performance, and if things such as aluminum blocks and other weight saving methods were used on the truck that can retain the same function of being an offroading fully capable truck, you do realize it would improve the performance of the truck as well.
Ah I'm wasting my time even responding to you. You're right, I should have gotten a gutted prius. That'll fit the bill perfectly for an offroad capable, towing capable, badazz ride
The 5.8 you want doesn't already exsist. It's only in your head.
So if the 2013 6.2 gets an improved 0.5 mpg will you still be bitching about it and comparing it to your imaginary engine?
I'm not bitching about anything. I'm in this 2013 Raptor discussion thread discussing what we all think may be in the 2013 Raptor. Did you confuse this thinking it was the 2010 Raptor thread?
Once again the 5.8 you want does not already exsist. It's all in your head.
So wait your telling me the 4.6, 5.0, 5.4, 5.8, 6.2 are all similar to be considered the same platform but earlier you were saying, oh yeah just because they have 8 cylinders lol the 5.0 and 6.2 are real similar lol lol lol. So which is it? Make up your mind if you want to argue.
It's pretty cool when a few posts on an internet forum and I've reached the max you're capable of comprehending
I'll try to explain it again for you, but your head may spin so be prepared.
All those engines are on the same platform as far as the modular motor platform. You're saying the 5.4 is so old it's ready to be killed forever, and the 5.8 is already outdated just because it's design evolved from the 5.4. You do realize that the Windsor platform was around for 40 years and there were many many many evolutions of the windsor engines. All these new modular motors are similar enough on that modular platform that this platform will still be around for easily another 20+ years.
Now on my posts about them being unique, the blocks themselves are. Each one has dedicated nonrecurring engineering hours into its development, and manufacturing set up. Even though they're all the modular platform, it costs a good chunk to create. Whether it's a new engine size that evolved out of an older one (5.8 from the 5.4), or a new engine that steps away from other standard architectures.
4. So if you know the 6.2 doesn't prohibit the use of epas why do you keep bring it up and trying to use it against the 6.2. Do you like making Shit up to argue about?
Plain and simple. The 6.2 doesn't come equipped with EPAS right now, all the other 3 engine offerings do. There is nothing that would stop from putting EPAS on the 6.2, but they don't put it on. THerefore the fact that the 6.2 doesn't come equipped with EPAS, and I want EPAS, is a check in the negative column for the 6.2 in my book.