The later 2020 have the updated cam phasers. My ‘20 is a September build and has been flawless. I’m just under 40k miles. I’m a long time truck owner, and not just Fords. For me the Raptor (mine is 802A with Pano roof) is my favorite vehicle, and I’ve had MANY.
Drove a Gen 2 for the first time - Pros and Cons
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Reliability is basically the same for 2021+ 2.7/3.5models. If you don’t need the extra power and towing capability, fuel economy is definitely a benefit to the 2.7.
There is quite a big difference in maximum towing capacity between the two engines. Definitely something to consider, reference the Ford RV & Trailer Towing guide:
Yes, the Hybrid’s 2 main advantages are city fuel efficiency and the Pro-Power onboard. If those don’t apply to you there’s not much advantage.
Fully agree and that’s why I track (road course) my Mach 1 manual, which kind of satisfies my need for spirited driving. On the other hand, the Raptor can be tame but also a beast. I’m still torn. Good problem to have!
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Loved my 04 Mach1, least amount of mods I ever did to one of my 6 Mustangs but I did put 4.10 gears in it and it was a 5 speed. Magnaflow exhaust and believe I had a Bassani X pipe on that one. But when the 5.0 came back out I was at the dealership....traded it in.
Sweet! Really like those. I love my 2021 Mach 1. So capable for what it is.
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Very Nice, last one I had was a 15 Comp Orange GT with a Procharger, full exhaust, 20" rims, lowered, killer sound system...of course. Been itching for another and looking at the 14 Shelby and S550 350's/500's.
Very nice and what a great color! I bought a ProCharger and sold my ‘16 GT before I could install it, so will never know. I was on the fence with a GT350 but the potential Voodoo issues spooked me so I played it safe with the Mach
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Always been a fan of the color, had a nice twin screw 04 Comp Orange Terminator as well.
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I just bought a Dark Horse in July, and it’s a HOOT.
Now, as to what truck you buy, I guess be honest with yourself about
whether you’re going to tow or not, and if so, how much
how much commuting vs. fun stuff.
let’s be honest, the Raptor is underused by most but... there’s that added capability that the Raptor brings to the table, that if you decide to go off road in any way, it will likely be a bit more enjoyable.
That said, if previous messages help, the tremor sounds like a good potential fit...
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Cam phasers information. If the Raptor you are looking at did have phasers installed they aren’t the old ones especially given it’s a 19. Your poss buy would have 20+ updated phasers installed.
As far as hunting for gears I would suggest resting the learning on the computer by removing the battery cables or just the positive for 2-3 hours and it will reset it. If you aren’t on the highway my instant thing I do is take away 4 gears. The way these ten speeds are you don’t need 10 and even highway my preferred is 8-9 unless 85 mph is how fast you drive. Others here should know this. The trans also can easily be blown if you don’t put it in tow mode and it can only take one haul to fry it.
Best of luck
As far as hunting for gears I would suggest resting the learning on the computer by removing the battery cables or just the positive for 2-3 hours and it will reset it. If you aren’t on the highway my instant thing I do is take away 4 gears. The way these ten speeds are you don’t need 10 and even highway my preferred is 8-9 unless 85 mph is how fast you drive. Others here should know this. The trans also can easily be blown if you don’t put it in tow mode and it can only take one haul to fry it.
Best of luck
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