Can the stock motor support a supercharger

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Wow... Just got home from work. This has become a hornets nest. LOL Not sure where to start .

This 100%

All I can say is ?????? LOL You will never get your money back from either one. in the terms of the loan.
back to what NEX said. so 77k is a lot more than 30k by 47k That is another GEN1 and might get you in a GEN2
I guess we’re not seeing it from the same perspective. I’m looking at it from a financial standpoint; the return on investing 30k+ in a 200k mile truck is essentially zero. Even if you turned around and sold it immediately after, you will recover little to none of your investment. That $30k is just the engine and S/C kit, no labor. And there is no way a 200k mile transmission going to last very long with additional power being put through it. That easily another $5k plus labor. If OP rebuilds the shocks and replaced chassis components that’s another couple grand right there. Remember, we’re talking about an 12 year old vehicle with 200k miles on it.

Putting $30k down on a new truck gets you a zero mile vehicle with a full warranty that will last you another 20 years. And the resale value that goes with a Raptor. My 4 year old truck is still worth close to what I paid for it.

I get that modding is a hobby and it rarely makes financial sense, but if someone doesn’t have enough money for a new truck, I don’t think dropping $30-$40k to modify/repair an old makes any financial sense.
These are my thoughts also. Not every one will go to the dealer to fix their stuff. I personally fix my own stuff
OP is currently tearing down his engine. So at least it looks like he’ll save on labor by doing it himself.
I am sorry WAS MY FULT!!!!! I ask about the flow Numbers for 3.5
Again... sorry. Curiosity stirred up a big old hornets nest.
You got old Eric all fired up, he got on his IBM 486 and started poundin that keyboard with his nonsensical ramblings again! :insane:
 
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I guess we’re not seeing it from the same perspective
We definitely don't see it from the same perspective. Here is mine. He got 200k on a 12 year old truck. so 20 years not going to happen new or used.
lets use 12
Motor 20k
SC 15K
Transmission 7K
42k ish?
new truck 77K interest @ 5% so like 80K?
12 years later 200K on both trucks
sell your 400k 24 year truck for? well taken care of 15k-10k the difference is. 30K
sell your 200k 12 year truck for? well taken care of 25K-30K the difference is. 53K
you saved 23k
This is saying you sell you could rebuild again
There is an outside chance with the limited production of 2010-2014 SVT raptors they could become the 65-68 mustang wouldn't anyone like to have one of them.
 

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We definitely don't see it from the same perspective. Here is mine. He got 200k on a 12 year old truck. so 20 years not going to happen new or used.
There are plenty of 20 year old F-150s around. And those are steel body.
lets use 12
Motor 20k
SC 15K
Transmission 7K
42k ish?
new truck 77K interest @ 5% so like 80K?
12 years later 200K on both trucks
sell your 400k 24 year truck for? well taken care of 15k-10k the difference is. 30K
sell your 200k 12 year truck for? well taken care of 25K-30K the difference is. 53K
you saved 23k
This is saying you sell you could rebuild again
There is an outside chance with the limited production of 2010-2014 SVT raptors they could become the 65-68 mustang wouldn't anyone like to have one of them.
You’re assuming his truck is going to last 400k miles. There are a lot more things that wear out that are not powertrain related. Never mind accidents, etc. And I see nobody paying that kind of money for a worn out vehicle with 400k miles. You can’t just keep rebuilding everything over and over, vehicles have a finite service life just like anything else.

The resale numbers you came up with are not realistic. Someone is going to pay $15k for a 24 year old truck with 400k miles on it? On what planet?

Gen 1 Raptors were not limited production. Beware of some of the misinformation you’ll see promulgated on here by certain cavemen who are more interested in stroking their ego than posting anything factual.
 

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We definitely don't see it from the same perspective. Here is mine. He got 200k on a 12 year old truck. so 20 years not going to happen new or used.
lets use 12
Motor 20k
SC 15K
Transmission 7K
42k ish?
new truck 77K interest @ 5% so like 80K?
12 years later 200K on both trucks
sell your 400k 24 year truck for? well taken care of 15k-10k the difference is. 30K
sell your 200k 12 year truck for? well taken care of 25K-30K the difference is. 53K
you saved 23k
This is saying you sell you could rebuild again
There is an outside chance with the limited production of 2010-2014 SVT raptors they could become the 65-68 mustang wouldn't anyone like to have one of them.
Your list to get the 400k mile truck to 400k miles is WAY short. You’re talking bearings, all rubber like door seals, water pumps, alternator, body support, shocks probably paint, lights, steering components , springs, seats etc just to get it to 400k miles.
 

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Gen 1 Raptors were not limited production. Beware of some of the misinformation you’ll see promulgated on here by certain cavemen who are more interested in stroking their ego than posting anything factual
I forgot who I was talking to. LOL not limited production in the actual "limited production" NOT what I meant sorry. I meant it in the that they were SVT, Pre ford performance. and only made from 2010-2014 I Agree not Limited production.( bad choice of words) I guess finite production might be a better term? The 1965-1968 mustang was not a Limited production.
Most people don't really know what it means.
As far as resale I really didn't know what to put. it worth something you could put 0 you but I didn't put increased cost of insurance for the new truck. wasn't trying to nickel and dime. just a perspective.
 
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I also like the fact that the 1st gen raptor sits on a full frame unlike the latest generation Raptors using the SUV unibody spot weld sardine can concept. Anything to save money
 

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@New recaros Be easy on my 330K 250 She don't need any of that stuff yet. well Maybe a wire in the side support of the drivers seat.
And what the hell are you doing to your Door seals. .LOL
 

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I forgot who I was talking to. LOL not limited production in the actual "limited production" NOT what I meant sorry. I meant it in the that they were SVT, Pre ford performance. and only made from 2010-2014 I Agree not Limited production.( bad choice of words) I guess finite production might be a better term? The 1965-1968 mustang was not a Limited production.
Most people don't really know what it means.
So you could say the same thing about a Gen 2 Raptor…it’s Ford Performance (SVT), “limited production” from 2017 to 2020. Actually one year less of production than Gen 1.
 
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