Bucking and snorting on acceleration

[ogdobber]

Sasquatch is an ******. The weephole fix for condensation is related to ecoboost engines prior to '15. In pre '15 models the IC is unobstructed (even by the front plate mount) and was subjected to overcooling the charge air under some circumstances, resulting in condensation. In the '15 and newer models the IC is more obstructed (on purpose) and uses electronic fans and the active grill shutters to control the ambient temperature of the IC. This is to avoid overcooling the IC and keeping condensation from forming. While the internet is full of know cases of '10-'14 EB that have the condensation issue, I have yet to see a single issue for a '15 and newer EB. Sasquatch is nothing more than a troll who offers nothing of value to anyone.



So if you think he's so great maybe you should respond to his OKCupid ad and you to get hook up and play with each other's weepholes.

OMG WRONG! Cold air makes more power! the cooler the air, the more gas you can burn, more boost, more timing, etc. That's why race cars have huge intercoolers. Those shutters are for freezing conditions
Unless you live in the desert, there will always be condensation in the intake. Boosted or not. The problem with the eco ic is that it is a poor design the the condensation collects


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[smurfslayer]

Sasquatch is an ******.

that’s tough to argue with.

The weephole fix for condensation is related to ecoboost engines prior to '15. In pre ’15 models the IC is unobstructed (even by the front plate mount) and was subjected to overcooling the charge air under some circumstances, resulting in condensation. ...I have yet to see a single issue for a ’15 and newer EB.

Right. It hasn’t ever been proven, substantiated analyzed or diagnosed by an honest to goodness Ford tech [and reported here]. The condensation misfire issue may be possible and could even happen, but, it hasn’t been established to be an issue on the Rap.

So before everyone jumps on the “Holy ****, I need a weephole in my intercooler bandwagon”, maybe we should all take a step back and stop playing Ford repair(wo)man on the internet.

Sasquatch is nothing more than a troll who offers nothing of value to anyone.

So if you think he's so great maybe you should respond to his OKCupid ad and you to get hook up and play with each other's weepholes.

A troll with more than one FRF user account, and an unparalleled case of confirmation bias, a touch of narcissism, passive aggressive behavior, projection, and a need to convince others of the rightness of what he/she says.

 

[AndysLog]

Sasquatch is an ******. The weephole fix for condensation is related to ecoboost engines prior to '15. In pre '15 models the IC is unobstructed (even by the front plate mount) and was subjected to overcooling the charge air under some circumstances, resulting in condensation. In the '15 and newer models the IC is more obstructed (on purpose) and uses electronic fans and the active grill shutters to control the ambient temperature of the IC. This is to avoid overcooling the IC and keeping condensation from forming. While the internet is full of know cases of '10-'14 EB that have the condensation issue, I have yet to see a single issue for a '15 and newer EB. Sasquatch is nothing more than a troll who offers nothing of value to anyone.

So if you think he's so great maybe you should respond to his OKCupid ad and you to can hook up and play with each other's weepholes.

i did respond to his OKcupid add. just waiting for a callback.

also thats a really nice well formed response and i appreciate it and i think you have some valid information. with that being said, the exact same kind of issue is presenting on another turbod 3.5 from the same company a year later and you dont think the issue may NOT be resolved? again i think because he is saying it you guys arent listening which is fine i dont care.
at the same time i would like all buttholes and women to be able to drive their vehicles without issues and it looks like beyond what quatch is saying no one else is really offering anything other than dont listen to him.

 

[df4801]

The raptor is INTENDED to run on 91 but will run on 87. They have to make it run on 87, maybe thats all you could get? Or people are too cheap or ignorant to run 91. But they aren't going to cripple the tune when more power is avail on a better fuel.
You do get knock on 87 and the computer is quick to pull out timing. If you always run 87 then you likely never hear the knock because it doesn't instantly reset. But fill it with 91 then when empty fill with 87 and immediately mash the throttle and you will hear, albeit just for an instant.
4 octane is not a whole lot of difference but on 91 vs 87 i guarantee more power, better fuel economy and long term engine reliability



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Your opinions, thoughts, and guarantees are nice and all, but unfortunately they dont replace science.

 

[Ray Knight]

Weep hole drilled (1/16"). Nothing came out. Bone dry.



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[ogdobber]

Your opinions, thoughts, and guarantees are nice and all, but unfortunately they dont replace science.

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[df4801]

Weep hole drilled (1/16"). Nothing came out. Bone dry.



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Can't be true, Sasquatch said it would work.

Oh wait a minute.... forget that.....he also said there would be a mid-model year engine change in the 2017's.

 

[crash457]

OMG WRONG! Cold air makes more power! the cooler the air, the more gas you can burn, more boost, more timing, etc. That's why race cars have huge intercoolers. Those shutters are for freezing conditions
Unless you live in the desert, there will always be condensation in the intake. Boosted or not. The problem with the eco ic is that it is a poor design the the condensation collects


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While nothing in your statement is false, it is does not negate my statement.

Yes, cold air does make more power. Yes, the shutters do control radiator temperatures. Yes, there will always be condensation in the intake tract. Yes the IC design is the source of the issue.

Here are the facts:
Compressed air has more condensation
This condensation normally passes thought the engine and has little effect on the engine when introduced in small quantities.
Having the air charge exit the IC at the bottom increases the amount of moisture that enters the engine.

But here are some things your not considering:
The more you cool the air, the more condensation that will form.
Using electric fans controls the amount of air passing over the IC.
Using active grill shutters also controls the amount of air that passes over the IC (as you restrict the air flow, that air has to go somewhere).
Reducing the lower grill opening size and allowing it to be obscured by the front plate limits the amount of air passing over the IC.

This has allowed Ford to limit the amount of cooling for the IC. This will reduce the amount of condensation that forms. It may not be the most efficient method, but has so far been successful at solving the problem.

If anyone can show an example of a '15 or newer EB with the problem, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. Until then, Sasquatch can go **** himself.

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i did respond to his OKcupid add. just waiting for a callback.

also thats a really nice well formed response and i appreciate it and i think you have some valid information. with that being said, the exact same kind of issue is presenting on another turbod 3.5 from the same company a year later and you dont think the issue may NOT be resolved? again i think because he is saying it you guys arent listening which is fine i dont care.
at the same time i would like all buttholes and women to be able to drive their vehicles without issues and it looks like beyond what quatch is saying no one else is really offering anything other than dont listen to him.

I stated that it was a problem for pre '15 EB. I'm speaking about the F150/Raptor. I don't know about other models, and honestly don't care, since we are talking about the Gen2 (since this is a Raptor forum and that's why we are here).

 

[Ray Knight]

Huh. Quick test drive just now. Its actually smoother. Not sure why though. Still bone dry. Nothing came out of the hole.

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[AndysLog]

While nothing in your statement is false, it is does not negate my statement.

Yes, cold air does make more power. Yes, the shutters do control radiator temperatures. Yes, there will always be condensation in the intake tract. Yes the IC design is the source of the issue.

Here are the facts:
Compressed air has more condensation
This condensation normally passes thought the engine and has little effect on the engine when introduced in small quantities.
Having the air charge exit the IC at the bottom increases the amount of moisture that enters the engine.

But here are some things your not considering:
The more you cool the air, the more condensation that will form.
Using electric fans controls the amount of air passing over the IC.
Using active grill shutters also controls the amount of air that passes over the IC (as you restrict the air flow, that air has to go somewhere).
Reducing the lower grill opening size and allowing it to be obscured by the front plate limits the amount of air passing over the IC.

This has allowed Ford to limit the amount of cooling for the IC. This will reduce the amount of condensation that forms. It may not be the most efficient method, but has so far been successful at solving the problem.

If anyone can show an example of a '15 or newer EB with the problem, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. Until then, Sasquatch can go **** himself.

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I stated that it was a problem for pre '15 EB. I'm speaking about the F150/Raptor. I don't know about other models, and honestly don't care, since we are talking about the Gen2 (since this is a Raptor forum and that's why we are here).

yea but its still an f150.. sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

to straight deny this issue is hilarious to me.

carry on gents....