37" BFG ATs

[dawing]

Bfg 37/12.5/17

I did a search and scanned through this forum without luck. Will these tires on stock wheel cause any issues on my 2012.

Thanks

 

[ZBoater]

Some people say yes, some people say no.

From the literally hundreds of posts that I've read, I've come to these conclusions.

37s will fit on stock wheels and on the Raptor.

Now, having said that, I've read some folks reporting minor rubbing at full turns.

Even more people reported serious rubbing and damage off-road. I guess if depends on how much compression you subject your wheels/tires to, but a lot of anecdotal posts that say "warning".

So, most folks suggest doing a mid perch mod. The back seems to be ok. The front needs a bit of help.

Even with the mid perch mod, there are some reports of rubbing, and some of bumping off road. Here's where the conversation turns to the pinch welds, cutting fenders and fender liners, glass fenders, etc. I usually tune out when the conversation goes this direction. Not interested in modding my truck like this just to fit 37s.

So, besides the mid perch, new wheels with 0 offset may help. They'll push the tires out about 1.33" on each side. Some folks say this is good even off road, others say no way. At this point there might be a variance in tire width (12.5 vs 13.5) but few folks include their full tire size when commenting.

Soooooo, after all that, I decided to get new wheels. I wanted black anyway, and the offset could help. I'm getting mid perch done, and hoping 37x12.5x17 Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs will fit mostly for street driving and some (very) mild off-roading. If I run into issues, I think some minor fender liner trimming might be required. I think trying to do this on the stock wheels will be harder.

It seems people with similar setups report different results. You'd think there is some variance between trucks. Some folks swap for another brand of 35" tire and report rubbing, because the BFG 35" tire is like 34.5". I find it hard to believe .5" can make that much of a difference, but apparently it does.

This is my take on this whole tire/wheel thing. Expect some rubbing on turns with those 37s on stock wheels, and some fender damage if you go off-roading. Consider mid perch as a step towards mitigating that, but that is not a solution. You'll need new wheels with a different offset, and possibly new fenders if you want to go seriously off road. For street driving only you "might" get away with it but the tight turns are going to be a problem unless you push those tires out a bit and raise the front a bit.

Tire wisdom from the newb after having gone cross eyed reading "yes it fits" and "no it doesn't" 100 times. I just said "screw it" and bought my 37s, and let the rubbing happen if it will. I'll deal with it when and if it does. YMMV.

 

[apeezie289]

Some people say yes, some people say no.

From the literally hundreds of posts that I've read, I've come to these conclusions.

37s will fit on stock wheels and on the Raptor.

Now, having said that, I've read some folks reporting minor rubbing at full turns.

Even more people reported serious rubbing and damage off-road. I guess if depends on how much compression you subject your wheels/tires to, but a lot of anecdotal posts that say "warning".

So, most folks suggest doing a mid perch mod. The back seems to be ok. The front needs a bit of help.

Even with the mid perch mod, there are some reports of rubbing, and some of bumping off road. Here's where the conversation turns to the pinch welds, cutting fenders and fender liners, glass fenders, etc. I usually tune out when the conversation goes this direction. Not interested in modding my truck like this just to fit 37s.

So, besides the mid perch, new wheels with 0 offset may help. They'll push the tires out about 1.33" on each side. Some folks say this is good even off road, others say no way. At this point there might be a variance in tire width (12.5 vs 13.5) but few folks include their full tire size when commenting.

Soooooo, after all that, I decided to get new wheels. I wanted black anyway, and the offset could help. I'm getting mid perch done, and hoping 37x12.5x17 Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs will fit mostly for street driving and some (very) mild off-roading. If I run into issues, I think some minor fender liner trimming might be required. I think trying to do this on the stock wheels will be harder.

It seems people with similar setups report different results. You'd think there is some variance between trucks. Some folks swap for another brand of 35" tire and report rubbing, because the BFG 35" tire is like 34.5". I find it hard to believe .5" can make that much of a difference, but apparently it does.

This is my take on this whole tire/wheel thing. Expect some rubbing on turns with those 37s on stock wheels, and some fender damage if you go off-roading. Consider mid perch as a step towards mitigating that, but that is not a solution. You'll need new wheels with a different offset, and possibly new fenders if you want to go seriously off road. For street driving only you "might" get away with it but the tight turns are going to be a problem unless you push those tires out a bit and raise the front a bit.

Tire wisdom from the newb after having gone cross eyed reading "yes it fits" and "no it doesn't" 100 times. I just said "screw it" and bought my 37s, and let the rubbing happen if it will. I'll deal with it when and if it does. YMMV.

Alright Z! Keep us updated once you mount those bad boys!

 

[ALDABRAMAN]

I was told that 37 BFG's were on national back order with no ETA. Also, are the ones you are getting the new design or old?

 

[ZBoater]

Me? I'm not getting BFGs. I'm getting Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs with Kevlar.

 

[BAJASVT]

I have the 37x12.50 BFG ATs on stock wheels and still haven't experienced a single rub. I woudn't say I've "jumped" the truck yet, but the tires have come off the ground a little a few times (so I've been told by bystanders). I even installed the PDP mud flaps which eat up a little more wheel well area because they install directly over the top of the part of the stock fender flare where most people with aftermarket wheels (more offset) have to trim when running larger tires.

I have two friends with Raptors who are both very meticulous about their trucks and don't want to deal with rubbing of any sort. After seeing my truck and me proving to them that they don't rub, they've both attempted to order the 37" BFG ATs and have both been told they're on backorder; one lives in Michigan and on in Utah, so I believe that the backorder may indeed be national.

The 37" Goodyear MTRs w/ Kevlar are going to be slightly larger than the BFGs, so there's definitely more chance of them rubbing. On a side note, I would never own those tires again and actually had such a bad experience with them that I may never buy another Goodyear tire... at least for a long time. They were on a Ranger (32 x 11.50) and not a Raptor. I can go into further detail if you'd like, but long story short, I went through 11 MTR tires in about 18 months and 15k miles. No flats, but they just started to wear and ride like crap... at one point one of the tires required 19oz of weight to balance it. Most were replaced under prorated remaining tread life warranty by Goodyear, but the last two I replaced out of pocket and sold them when Goodyear started to blame my truck. I replaced them with BFG MT KM2s and put just shy of 30k issue free miles on them before selling the truck. Hopefully my issues were specific to the 32 x 11.50 size and you have better luck.

 

[Madcowranch]

I had same experience with Goodyear MTR's. Absolute pieces of shit.

 

[ZBoater]

I had some 35s on my Jeep and they were outstanding. So I'll keep my fingers crossed that 37s will also be awesome.

 

[Ramrodthrusterpuppy]

ZBoater....getting wheels with greater offset than stock @ +34 (i.e. "0" or negative offset) will increase the chances of rubbing since you are pushing the wheel farther from the hub with a tire of increased circumference.

The OEM offset tucks the tire in more, therefore it has less probability of rubbing...any suspension compression will increase the chances of rubbing with all of the other variables remaining constant. That's where the body modifications come into play.

 

[BAJASVT]

^^^ agreed. I think a 35/12.50 on a Method would rub before a 37/12.50 on an OEM wheel.