Tire Weights

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^^^ Excellent point... The points are pilling up for the BAJA TA'S... Who's gonna be the first FRF member to pull that $2400 (plus shipping) trigger???
 
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wow, I wasn't expecting anyone to hit this thread until the AM

Also any word on Toyo's and Nitto's... Possibly the M/T's and A/T's respectively...

I'll add more as I find the data, most places don't post the info for some reason. I seem to remember the nitto's being a little on the heavy side.

With a 6,000 weight on the Crew 6.2 and 411 HP, thats 14.5 lbs per HP.... or .06 HP per pound.... so wouldn't the 36 pounds of rotating mass be more like an increase of 19.44 HP?

Jesus dude, busting out the math... I pulled my number out of my ass. Using your numbers I came up with 21.6 - whatever that means. I was just trying to articulate the 'feeling' based on how much easier the truck would be able to spin the tires. This is based on my experience with my old cobra when I installed some cobra R rims. It looked cool but felt like I was carrying a fat girl in the trunk.

^^^ Excellent point... The points are pilling up for the BAJA TA'S... Who's gonna be the first FRF member to pull that $2400 (plus shipping) trigger???


So far the lightest wheel I've found is 31lbs. I actually found a 16inch rim the toyota guys are running that only weighs 15lbs - obviously it won't work for us.
 

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Centerline Wheels produce 20" wheels that are 23lbs, i bet they have 17" wheels in the 20lb range. They also claim 1lb rotating mass = 8lbs sprung weight
 
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Centerline Wheels produce 20" wheels that are 23lbs, i bet they have 17" wheels in the 20lb range. They also claim 1lb rotating mass = 8lbs sprung weight

wow, I hadn't seen that. I will check them out.

edit: they might be light but they are fugly - IMO. everything they have has a 90's billet look to it. two styles are ok, alcoa look alikes.
 
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Good post WarSurfer very useful info. When you talk about the Baja T/A's are you talking about these
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Or the Projects
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The reason I ask is because I've lifted a few of the projects before and I remember them being heavy as shit. Also, I've had a few buddies who have run projects and they didn't last that long on the street. Great in the dirt, but basically like driving on bricks from what I remember after driving their trucks.
 
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not the projects, the others. The projects are very heavy from what i've read.
 

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These Maxxis Creepy Crawler tires got high marks for rock, sand and mud. Couldn't find a weight and only come in 16". But look good.

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Weight is not the only consideration either for mpg's...rolling resistance will have a huge effect. saw on Tire Rack where they ran a BMW with various tire/wheel combos. The lightweight setup did worse than a heavier combo with some eco type tread pattern. I'm guessing a lot of these aggressive off road tread patterns would probably totally suck in the rolling resistance column.
 

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Nittos are a little hard to find the weight on. I found two articles that said..

NITTO TRAIL GRAPPLER M/T - 35x12.50R17 - one said 78lbs one said 79lbs

Toyo list the Open Country M/T in same size at - 82.7lbs

Those are some serious heavyweights, and the two tires I was deciding on, may not now.

War - feel free to add those to your OP, thanks for the great thread. Lets definitely get one going on wheels too.
Ive also noticed that what manufacturers list on their websites can very a few pounds from what places like tire rack list.

Some manufactures like Kumho offer the Road Venture MT KL71 in a 35x12.5R17 - 75lbs(tire rack) - 75.7lbs(Kumho) and the 315/70R17 is 73lbs(tire rack) - 71.8lbs(Kumho). they are pretty much identical tires but you can save a few lbs by going with the 315.


What would be sweet is if we could get ppl who have tires that are not mounted yet to post a pic of them on a scale.
 
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For wheels look at the Centerline Wilderness series. They are rated at 3200lbs/ea and up to a 44" tall tire. The 17x9's I ordered weigh 21 lbs/ea saving 10lbs per wheel over stock. They are lighter and stronger than the stock cast wheels. Not horribly expensive either.
 
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