Surprise i broke something again!!!

[6.2]

they should have just used a live axle setup.

everything turns all the time, only thing that happens when you switch to 4x is it engages at the transfer case. much more reliable that way. and really, no negative effects.

 

[Wilson]

it would be like a drive shaft fitting. or a pto fitting small shaft with big splines on a big shaft with smaller splines beveled to one. IWE should still work just a better spline design.

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[WyoStorm]

lol... manual hub redisign.... I can send them pictures been around for 50 years I have them on my 69 bronco so Ford should have heard about them... and it is not genius to add a switch to indicate locked but of course you gotta get out and lock them.. Auto locks are just a point to fail... I want good old fashioned I turn a knob there locked it is very simple to do ..... I prefer simple myself...

And they're on my 68 Bronco...lol!

 

[pirate air]

thanks for the imput by my issue is that since day 1 my fricken cv shafts spin in 2wd.. and i kept researching and researching and found out that the 2012+ torsen spins all the time and 10's 11's dont... but then i researched some more and found out that my problem is actually a problem... i have replaced 3 wheel hubs now, 2 iwe actuators, 4 cv shafts... and the damn thing still doesnt release the hubs......
thats why im going to try to push for warranty tomorrow, after i get done preasure washing all my snoball stickers off
if its a problem with my truck its caused me a shitton of effort to fix it and in the end it might be a problem with my truck not releasing the hubs.... HOPEFULLY ford please fix it.... last time i will question to use my warranty... as soon as i get enough $$ in the account...... rcv's..... new axle.... new diff............. and if my stuff still breaks after that well guys ill be selling my raptor for a diesel with solid axles.

thanks!... both of my lower control arm ball joints went loose... making it impossible to get a alignment done.

It sounds like you have a legitimate issue with your IWE system. The CVs shouldn't turn in 2wd in normal operation under any conditions, as long as the engine is running/producing a vacuum. The problem could be on the other end in your tcase, it might not be releasing causing your front drive shaft to turn, which will turn the cvs.

did I miss where it says in the owners manual to not use 4x4 on dry dirt?
I actually like the fact it don't turn the shaft while in 2 wheel. however I don't see why they don't make it the gear part more robust. what did you think of my stub shaft idea with the ball bearings on the end.

You can use it in dry dirt, but typically dry dirt offers enough traction you don't need 4x4. Did yours break on dry dirt? Did it break during ingagement, or after it was locked in? The ball bearing end sounds like more stuff to go wrong and I'm not sure how durable it would be when jarred continually. Would the balls still be round after several hundred engagements? I would try a synchronizer like a manual transmission uses, because its a proven design under high torque and high rpm. It would get the cv shaft up to the speed of the wheel hub before locking, like the main shaft gets up to speed of the input shaft in a manual transmission. But again more thing to go wrong, more cost involved, and space is already pretty limited at the iwe.


I understand people wanting to upgrade/strengthen the system, because some are harder, or expect more out of it then others. I like to hot rod and horse whip the shit out of my stuff too, just gotta keep limits in mind. If you wanna make the damn thing bomb proof and find the next weakest link in the process, go for it! I'll enjoy sitting back and watching.

 

[Squatting Dog]

Yep... Ford designed iwe as wear item because it is "easy" to change out verses ring and pinion..

-Greg (aka squatting dog)

 

[beemerman]

Hope you have better luck with rcv axles than I did. 2 sets and both slung grease all over. And the right one on the second set broke the outer orange boot. They say it has not happened to anyone else. Sent them back for a refund. Can buy 4 sets of cvs for what one set cost.


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[ntm]

I don't know your driving habits Netix, but do you not wonder if you'd be better off with a lifted, live axle superduty ?
It seems to be kind of the look you're going for with your truck anyways, and if you're doing more low speed offroading than high speed stuff, driveline durability trumps suspension capable of taking big g outs...

My old lifted, blacked out 2007 superduty was pretty solid for driveline issues.
It was better than the raptor for taking abuse in 4x4, that's for sure.

 

[Wilson]

It sounds like you have a legitimate issue with your IWE system. The CVs shouldn't turn in 2wd in normal operation under any conditions, as long as the engine is running/producing a vacuum. The problem could be on the other end in your tcase, it might not be releasing causing your front drive shaft to turn, which will turn the cvs.



You can use it in dry dirt, but typically dry dirt offers enough traction you don't need 4x4. Did yours break on dry dirt? Did it break during ingagement, or after it was locked in? The ball bearing end sounds like more stuff to go wrong and I'm not sure how durable it would be when jarred continually. Would the balls still be round after several hundred engagements? I would try a synchronizer like a manual transmission uses, because its a proven design under high torque and high rpm. It would get the cv shaft up to the speed of the wheel hub before locking, like the main shaft gets up to speed of the input shaft in a manual transmission. But again more thing to go wrong, more cost involved, and space is already pretty limited at the iwe.


I understand people wanting to upgrade/strengthen the system, because some are harder, or expect more out of it then others. I like to hot rod and horse whip the shit out of my stuff too, just gotta keep limits in mind. If you wanna make the damn thing bomb proof and find the next weakest link in the process, go for it! I'll enjoy sitting back and watching.

I was in 4x4 when I left the house drove across the field I stopped punched it I herd a pop crack noise when in 4x4 on dry dirt was going to get up to speed as fast as possible. now every once in a while It just don't go in gear. had I known how week it was I would have just let the back wheels spin. I have a 2004 are they the same IWE? that has 160,000 and no problems and yes it has pulled wagons spinning on dry dirt going on to oil roads in 4x4. like you I will tare it up but have never had a 4x4 issue before. it's like a good hunting dog the more you spend on it the more you expect it to hunt, with a dog it could be free they either work or they don't. I just hat hearing a new truck make this noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeHW1BK0F0k&feature=player_detailpage

as you can tell I stopped and tried to let it seet after I realized what was going on, I than went farther thought I was going to get stuck managed to back up take it out of 4x4 and drove out. that was the first time it didn't engage that I knew it was bad the very fist time I had an inkling was I was up against a curb and on ice put it in 4x4 to back up crinkle but not bad I just took it out right away didn't think any thing of it until the above. I had actually forgot about the noise from before. back on the dry dirt I've heard drive shafts crink before and never had a problem so didn't think anything of it at the time. but I know that is what started it. my bad shit happens how much to put the new stuff I need to to make it new again? when I need 4x4 I need it. it's life and death some times I have a kid that when he needs a hospital he need to go now and I don't have time for my 4x4 to wimp out. all I'm saying is they are using small wimpy gears and would like a stronger one. I could care less that the vacuum breaks and makes it all time 4x4 but to lose 4x4 from a week gear is not acceptable. I'm still not pissed I'll fix it but if it ever go's out on ice mud I'll be pissed.

 

[Conejoracer]

I miss the hubs on my 05 Superduty. They were vacuum operated, but had a nice manual lock feature too. That saved my but twice when the vacuum system failed.

 

[Netix]

With all the aftermarket shit i put on my truck an the condition of its paint and seeing as noone off roads in ontario. I will loose a lot of money getting rip o the raptor.
Im just gonna step by step change stuff on it. Axles, transfer cases, ect ect over the years. This summer ill prob buy a duramax or a cummins 6 speed and use it when my ******** ford is on the stands jacked up.