GEN 2 I need some help from the experts. Potential Oil Starvation.

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At least they cannot deny it was a Valvoline plug

 

[raptorsub]

Not sure but the picture of that plug almost looks like there are 4 o-rings on it.

 

[Joey DeLorenzo]

At least they cannot deny it was a Valvoline plug

Currently, they're playing ball. Which is nice.

 

[FordTechOne]

Currently, they're playing ball. Which is nice.

Sounds like they’re going to owe you an engine. With oil loss that substantial and the low oil pressure warning coming on it’s next to impossible that there is not internal engine damage.

 

[Old-Raptor-guy]

I have said many times for many years. The most dangerous thing I do is an oil change. Make $10 profit on the chance we don't damage a $20,000 engine.

Personally I wouldn't mind if everyone changed their own oil and took that liability on themselves.

To the OP, you need to fight. Chances are they will try and do used engine with similar miles.

Having been an "expert" witness in a couple of these cases that have went to court, a used engine would make you "whole" and a new engine would be more than "whole" (yes when a judge said that I was like WTF)


2 years ago we had a customer bring a F150 in that had low oil pressure after getting an oil change done at Grease Monkey, in Clinton Utah (**** them). I have an email from the store manager saying fix it, take care of the customer we will pay for repairs.

When the bill was $19,000 he shit, sent it to corporate who told me to pound sand. We went to court and won $15,000, attorney cost me $7000. In the end I lost, but learned a valuable lesson.

 

[Coop65]

God bless you on what you are facing with getting that all resolved... I just had to do an engine swap and was several months long in the whole process--- really stinks not having the truck- pray it works out as you need it to... they would not replace my turbos in all of my engine change fiasco but I'm about 6k or so into my new engine and setup and everything is holding together well so far ! Best of luck to you though!

 

[EagleRaptor]

Yeah, this will most definitely have engine damage with that amount of loss. It sucks, and I'm not ******** on you or anything but this is why its only DIY or Ford for lube service since these trucks are so expensive. I hope they cover it for you, but if not you have to go the lawyer route which will cost you.

THis mistake is way too common and it grinds my gears that they let people work on these vehicles with such little training. (speaking from experience with stripped out skid plate bolts) I feel like my landscaper is more well rounded in oil change procedures.

 

[Joey DeLorenzo]

Yeah, I've learned my lesson here.

Minor Update: Upon initial inspection Ford has found nothing wrong with the motor. They've performed compression testing (0% loss), bore scope (no visual indication of damage), and an inspection of the oil that was left. The next step is to disassemble the oil filter Valvoline used to look for metal debris, perform an oil change, drive 40 miles, and disassemble the Ford OEM Oil Filter to check for metal debris (As well as the visually inspect the oil coming out of the motor). If nothing is found they believe they can give it a clean bill of health. Do I demand an inspection of rod bearings / underside of the motor.

Mossy Ford guarantees that they've put their most experienced and thorough mechanic on it and are looking to find problems. According to their Tech I must have stopped the motor at just the right time to prevent damage before the oil was lost. (Total on time from indication to motor off was within 10 seconds if I recall correctly.)

@FordTechOne

 

[FordTechOne]

Yeah, I've learned my lesson here.

Minor Update: Upon initial inspection Ford has found nothing wrong with the motor. They've performed compression testing (0% loss), bore scope (no visual indication of damage), and an inspection of the oil that was left. The next step is to disassemble the oil filter Valvoline used to look for metal debris, perform an oil change, drive 40 miles, and disassemble the Ford OEM Oil Filter to check for metal debris (As well as the visually inspect the oil coming out of the motor). If nothing is found they believe they can give it a clean bill of health. Do I demand an inspection of rod bearings / underside of the motor.

Mossy Ford guarantees that they've put their most experienced and thorough mechanic on it and are looking to find problems. According to their Tech I must have stopped the motor at just the right time to prevent damage before the oil was lost. (Total on time from indication to motor off was within 10 seconds if I recall correctly.)

@FordTechOne

Curious what they find in the oil filter. These engines used low friction coated bearings, which may have saved it from spinning a bearing when oil pressure was lost.

 

[Joey DeLorenzo]

@FordTechOne -- I'm curious too. If they find nothing, and it's just clear oil, does your expert opinion think it's good, or should I really push for a rod bearing check?