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Has anyone checked out the new Mercedes 4 cylinder engine? 2.0L twin scroll turbo, direct injection, 26lbs of boost. It puts out 360HP, 332lb-ft from 2200rpms to red line. Makes you wonder what's really possible from a twin turbo V6...
 

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Has anyone checked out the new Mercedes 4 cylinder engine? 2.0L twin scroll turbo, direct injection, 26lbs of boost. It puts out 360HP, 332lb-ft from 2200rpms to red line. Makes you wonder what's really possible from a twin turbo V6...


But how long will they last? Usually more power/boost means short life. It would take some serious engineering as well as materials to make it last. I just can't see anything aluminum holding up to that. Use a diesel block??
 

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But how long will they last? Usually more power/boost means short life. It would take some serious engineering as well as materials to make it last. I just can't see anything aluminum holding up to that. Use a diesel block??

Cunsomer market engines are made for 150.000 to 250.000 kilometers
Comercial engines 500.000 to 1.500.000

Talking about kilometers untill rebuild might be required
Pistone rings forinstance

Sooooo i think it will hold

And the way you guys drive everything get minamly halved in lifespann

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But how long will they last? Usually more power/boost means short life. It would take some serious engineering as well as materials to make it last. I just can't see anything aluminum holding up to that. Use a diesel block??

Well, given MB's reputation, I'd be confident that they have torture tested the engine to withstand well over 100k if properly maintained. The turbo will likely need a major servicing or replacement before 75k, but I'm not suggesting Ford would even need to get that radical. Liter for liter if Ford built something similar you would be talking 633HP from a 3.5L EB if it were as power dense.
 

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Ford already made a 600+ horsepower 4 cylinder, imagine if the rs200 evolutions were made with the current advancements in technology
 

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Ford already made a 600+ horsepower 4 cylinder, imagine if the rs200 evolutions were made with the current advancements in technology

I didn't know that, and would tend to challenge that statement. However, we are talking about production engines, not one-off engineering marvels that make it into Ken Block's cars and only last 1000 miles.
 

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Turbos run on every diesel on the road. They run 500k+ miles. It's old technology but it works


A European turbo 4 is designed much different than an American v8. They are mostly internally balanced no need for harmonic balances and rev much higher.

I had 120k miles on an 06 gti with never a motor issue. It was chipped put out 30 psi and 300 hp and 325 tq. Still got 34 mpg.


I'm all for turbos and you don't hear the constant whine of an sc

As for aluminum fords been using aluminum hoods for years. My 01 ranger had aluminum hood and an aluminum tailgate.

Aluminum can be worked like steel just not as many times. It just changes the repair process. Look at vettees, they don't repair panels, they replace them because they are fiberglass.

People are just against change and progress.

Id take a turbo 6 over this antiquated 6.2 any day




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