put up your dyno results
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Wilson
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If my car sits any longer than 2-3weeks with the same ethanol in the tank I gotta drain it all out and put fresh E in.
does this have to do with your other statement about water? I've never used e-85. All I know is you never want to put any type of additive in with ethanol. Ethanol is the additive for gas. I've never had any trouble with e-30 eating up any hoses and if your car is that old you'll more than likely need a new hose anyhow and thy don't make them like they use to anymore. Getting to the point I put stabil in a four wheeler once it had ethanol in it and that ate everything up but I've never had any trouble with just ethanol remember I've"ve only used up to 30% dad put 50% in his 2004 f150 tho with no problems either.
P.S. I can get a hold of e-99 if I wanted to.
does this have to do with your other statement about water? I've never used e-85. All I know is you never want to put any type of additive in with ethanol. Ethanol is the additive for gas. I've never had any trouble with e-30 eating up any hoses and if your car is that old you'll more than likely need a new hose anyhow and thy don't make them like they use to anymore. Getting to the point I put stabil in a four wheeler once it had ethanol in it and that ate everything up but I've never had any trouble with just ethanol remember I've"ve only used up to 30% dad put 50% in his 2004 f150 tho with no problems either.
P.S. I can get a hold of e-99 if I wanted to.
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I really wouldn't sweat anything e-30 or less. Heck our regular pump fuel is really e-10ish give or take a few. Ethanol is a great octane booster.
Is ur dad's truck flex fuel capable or we talkin bout a raptor? If it's a flex truck than they have a sensor that basically can detect the mixture and make adjustments to ur ecu on the fly. And when u say it was fine do u mean it drove alright or where u able to see what your AFRs/ other data was at? I have yet to really look at the fuel lines/pump on my truck yet. I'm assuming they say it's not flex compatible because of the expensive electronics required for the truck to be able to detect and adjust on its own. I bet ford used the same lines/pump and what not on all their trucks lol...(mass production). And with the raptors being so expensive to build already they didn't want to add anything else prolly lol. Last thing anyone would assume of a raptor is that it is Eco friendly so ford was prolly like F it let's sell it as is no one who owns a raptor would ever need to run ethanol.
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Is ur dad's truck flex fuel capable or we talkin bout a raptor? If it's a flex truck than they have a sensor that basically can detect the mixture and make adjustments to ur ecu on the fly. And when u say it was fine do u mean it drove alright or where u able to see what your AFRs/ other data was at? I have yet to really look at the fuel lines/pump on my truck yet. I'm assuming they say it's not flex compatible because of the expensive electronics required for the truck to be able to detect and adjust on its own. I bet ford used the same lines/pump and what not on all their trucks lol...(mass production). And with the raptors being so expensive to build already they didn't want to add anything else prolly lol. Last thing anyone would assume of a raptor is that it is Eco friendly so ford was prolly like F it let's sell it as is no one who owns a raptor would ever need to run ethanol.
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2004 ford it barely has a computer lol no it's not flex fuel.
what are AFR's?
I was wondering why you had to dump your e-85
I've never had any problems with eating anything becose of ethanol.
when I say I don't have any problems or it runs fine I get in and go it take's me from point a to b with no difference than when I was using non ethanol in 1989 I think was about the last year we used non ethanol gas.
I have noticed since moving from e-10 to e-30 the mpg is better and I can feel the better performance. Only reason I know this is becose the wife tries sneaking in a take of e-10 every once in a while and I say what the hell's wrong with the van It's not running right. then she fesses up and says e-10 was on sale.
what are AFR's?
I was wondering why you had to dump your e-85
I've never had any problems with eating anything becose of ethanol.
when I say I don't have any problems or it runs fine I get in and go it take's me from point a to b with no difference than when I was using non ethanol in 1989 I think was about the last year we used non ethanol gas.
I have noticed since moving from e-10 to e-30 the mpg is better and I can feel the better performance. Only reason I know this is becose the wife tries sneaking in a take of e-10 every once in a while and I say what the hell's wrong with the van It's not running right. then she fesses up and says e-10 was on sale.
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Air to fuel ratio... U want to be within a certain range to keep it Safe on ur motor.
If u don't know ur AFRs ur Rollin the dice.
I'm willing to bet ur slightly Leaner on the ethanol which would explain it getting more mpgs and running better. Too lean (not enough fuel) and motor goes boom. Ur basically running a higher octane but not adjusting fuel...I bet it's on the lean side but doesn't sound like that big of a problem in ur situation. If u get better mileage on e-30 as opposed to e-10 than that def what's goin on.
I dump the fuel after it sits for a while because my race car is on a very specific map/tune and the slightest change in octane will throw my afr curve off. Gotta have fresh corn bread in my oven.
Ur good though... E10-30 is not e-85( when it comes to eating lines and precipitating lol). A lot more stable than the shine.
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If u don't know ur AFRs ur Rollin the dice.
I'm willing to bet ur slightly Leaner on the ethanol which would explain it getting more mpgs and running better. Too lean (not enough fuel) and motor goes boom. Ur basically running a higher octane but not adjusting fuel...I bet it's on the lean side but doesn't sound like that big of a problem in ur situation. If u get better mileage on e-30 as opposed to e-10 than that def what's goin on.
I dump the fuel after it sits for a while because my race car is on a very specific map/tune and the slightest change in octane will throw my afr curve off. Gotta have fresh corn bread in my oven.
Ur good though... E10-30 is not e-85( when it comes to eating lines and precipitating lol). A lot more stable than the shine.
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thanks for your input like I said I use what work's for me I know anything over e-50 you are asking for trouble. I have 120,000 on the van using e-30 so I'm not worried. I have a 4 wheeler I've got over 4,000 I have a video any way dad has 160,000 on that 2004 f150 and 175,000 on an impala none of which are ffv. oh and I have 15,000 on my raptor using e-30 2 tanks of regular but sdbr I put in 3 of 93 octane and when new c-store has 95 octane becose of 10%
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oh and this 60 1953.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5h3IHJi2f8E
here is the wheeler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vm0SXZ5_Jw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHHb3alFIF4
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this is just a sound bite so I let off at a quarter mile then thought I'll keep going you can't even tell I let off lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHHb3alFIF4
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you never answered my ? AFR is that air flow reading?
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oh and this 60 1953.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5h3IHJi2f8E
here is the wheeler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vm0SXZ5_Jw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHHb3alFIF4
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this is just a sound bite so I let off at a quarter mile then thought I'll keep going you can't even tell I let off lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHHb3alFIF4
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you never answered my ? AFR is that air flow reading?
Flying_Raptor
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I did a dyno so that should be in there right? I pulled 361rwhp using e-30 safe tune. or eco tune as some say.
Flying_Raptor
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Depends on the dyno run and if they hooked it up to read the AFRs. If it was just a dyno run to see the hp then prolly not lol. But I just noticed that u have an e-30 tune on ur truck so I'm sure the tuner did all that good stuff for ya lol.
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yep eco tune 361 rwhp I have no idea if that is good'
