New 2017 Raptor, New Section.

[FullAuto]

Well one thing I gather from this thread is zanemasterx sure loves the Gen 2's and seems to have tons of inside info........

 

[DrippinRaptor]

Well one thing I gather from this thread is zanemasterx sure loves the Gen 2's and seems to have tons of inside info........

Yep, the announcement of the Gen 2 sure opened the floodgate for all these forum noobs who think they know everything.

 

[Raptor911]

Agreed! Lots of new members chiming in. I am sure site traffic has increased quite a bit. I am sure the Bird is loving it.

Yep, the announcement of the Gen 2 sure opened the floodgate for all these forum noobs who think they know everything.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Well one thing I gather from this thread is zanemasterx sure loves the Gen 2's and seems to have tons of inside info........

I know nothing. But I am very excited to finally get into a Raptor when the Gen 2 is released.

 

[ofcbarbrady]

With possibly 3 different interior options that were mentioned......I wouldn't mind a set of Recaros like on the GT350/RS........

 

[Huck]

@Huck, are you sure that's a misprint? I read that in a local magazine. The mag has two good photos of the new Raptor, so my impression is that both photos and text are from Ford. Here's the text as published (I've put the bit about the frame in bold text):

"2017 Ford Raptor
With all the changes in the Ford F-150 line-up in 2015, Raptor enthusiasts were shocked to learn that Ford did not unveil a Raptor in that line-up. Not to worry, the new Raptor will be available in the fall of 2016. The new body style and aluminum frame for 2017 sheds 500 pounds and dumps the V8 gas guzzler. The new high output 3.5L EcoBoost claims to give more horsepower and torque than the 411 HP, 434 lb-ft 6.2L in the 2014 edition. Also to be included are upgraded, "bigger" Fox racing shocks while maintaining the classic 35" BFG's with 17" wheels. Ford is also excited about a "torque on demand" transfer case and all new Terrain Management System for the 2017 Raptor. Electronic lights will be new as well with an all new LED lighting package and 360-degree camera system."

Okay, if indeed the frame is an aluminum alloy, that may well be a really bad metallurgical choice. Metals fatigue, and probably the most likely major part subject to metal fatigue on a high-speed off-road heavy-weight truck is the frame. When steel fatigues it bends before it breaks. When aluminum fatigues it breaks or shatters. A bent steel frame will allow you to limp home from Out There, but a broken aluminum frame is likely to strand you.

What's the hype about the "upgraded bigger" Fox shocks?

And doesn't a "torque on demand" transfer case mean that the new truck is AWD rather than 4WD?

Whole point of the raptor is to assembly it on the same production line as an f150.

There was also a release saying it had a reinforced frame vs the standard f-150 in the debut article in road and track.

An aluminum frame would have to be so thick to support the truck nothing standard from the f150 would fit up and wouldn't roll
Down the line. Think along the lines of 2-3" thick. .125" plate would not suffice and it would really stand out in photos.

The photos posted do not reflect that.

Aluminum is great but it's prone to cracking with repeated deflection much more so than steel. Also with vibrations.


I'm amazed that ford used aluminum for the lca's after the lawsuits back in 06-08 with the f150 aluminum lca and then randomly shearing resulting in a few deaths.

 

[Rookie]

There's a new raptor?

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[Ruger]

Anybody want to bet on whether the whole aluminum thing is a fad?

In 'breakthrough,' scientists create new 'super steel' | Fox News

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Anybody want to bet on whether the whole aluminum thing is a fad?

Hell yeah, aluminum is a fad. Any day now they'll introduce beer in steel cans!

Holy shnike! Here it is, the 2017 Steel Beer Can! Only available in 6 oz. (no more 8) but at least it's a turbocharged 6.

 

[LekRap]

The 2017's look nice and look like they'll have their advantages for sure. They definitely look like the "next generation" and an evolution in the line...lighter and more horsepower.

One thing I will say...my brother bought a 2000 super duty with the 7.3L diesel. When the updated models came out, they had a 6.0L diesel that supposedly had the same or maybe even more power. People had issues and they quickly changed the motor to a 6.4L. I'm still hearing a lot of negative things about the new motor. My brother gets offers from guys wanting to buy his 7.3 all the time! Everyone says "never sell that truck!"

I'm not saying this new motor will have issues and will be crap my any means...but I have some doubts and want to let others be the guiney pigs. I bought a '14 and knew that new ones were coming pretty soon. I don't regret my purchase at all. If after a few years, the motor and truck are holding up...hell yeah I'll be getting one. But I'm glad that I have the luxury to sit back and watch for a while.