New 2017 Raptor, New Section.

[WyoStorm]

Just read the Car and Driver article.

Estimated price: 50-53K (base for SCAB/SCREW I assume) That's what I'm hoping for too!
EPA: 15/21 (ha ha. No way) Maybe 13/18.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Just read the Car and Driver article.

Estimated price: 50-53K (base for SCAB/SCREW I assume) That's what I'm hoping for too!
EPA: 15/21 (ha ha. No way) Maybe 13/18.

Well the current 3.5L ecoboost in the supercab 8ft box XL F-150 does 17/23 so 15/21 shouldnt be that hard to muster out of the new EB. Thats if you keep your right foot off the floor.

I cant remember where I read it but it said that price should stay around $45k-$50k for a low option SCAB and not to expect a huge jump in price. Hopefully that remains true. Ill have a hard time swallowing $62k+.

 

[WyoStorm]

They did gain 2 mpg with the new F150 with the weight savings but we have a wider, heavier, Raptor with 35s on it. So, I'm thinking maybe the 500lbs shaved is worth a mpg and the Eco will give us maybe another mpg. I guess we'll see but I don't see EPA figures being 5 mpg more.

As to the price, I think 50K base SCAB would be the best we can expect. It won't be less than a 2014 that's for sure.

 

[Ruger]

I just read something entirely new: that the FRAME of the new Raptor is aluminum alloy. Is anybody else reading that??? It's hard to believe.

 

[skyscraper]

THere's been several guys post in here who have (or have friends with) 3.5L ecoboosts on 35's, and none of them were getting over 15mpg.

 

[Huck]

I just read something entirely new: that the FRAME of the new Raptor is aluminum alloy. Is anybody else reading that??? It's hard to believe.

That's a misprint

 

[Charley821]

Pound for Pound the aluminum is just as strong and durable as the steel. At 500 lbs lighter that means the truck is 500 lbs weaker and less durable than the prior version. Hopefully they didn't take those pounds off the frame. If they did then this truck is not a jump worthy Baja truck anymore, and is just a regular F-150 with a premium fit and finish.

 

[Raptor911]

NO. They did not take it off the frame. Most of the 500 pounds reduction came off the cab and bed as these sections were changed to alum.

And some advice I don't care what they make the Raptor from, but when you jump a 6000 pound truck, you are asking for some serious issues.

I think the biggest mistake is when Ford showed the Raptor jumping in ads. They were prob thinking that owners can't be that stupid to jump this truck and they did.

Pound for Pound the aluminum is just as strong and durable as the steel. At 500 lbs lighter that means the truck is 500 lbs weaker and less durable than the prior version. Hopefully they didn't take those pounds off the frame. If they did then this truck is not a jump worthy Baja truck anymore, and is just a regular F-150 with a premium fit and finish.

 

[Ruger]

@Huck, are you sure that's a misprint? I read that in a local magazine. The mag has two good photos of the new Raptor, so my impression is that both photos and text are from Ford. Here's the text as published (I've put the bit about the frame in bold text):

"2017 Ford Raptor
With all the changes in the Ford F-150 line-up in 2015, Raptor enthusiasts were shocked to learn that Ford did not unveil a Raptor in that line-up. Not to worry, the new Raptor will be available in the fall of 2016. The new body style and aluminum frame for 2017 sheds 500 pounds and dumps the V8 gas guzzler. The new high output 3.5L EcoBoost claims to give more horsepower and torque than the 411 HP, 434 lb-ft 6.2L in the 2014 edition. Also to be included are upgraded, "bigger" Fox racing shocks while maintaining the classic 35" BFG's with 17" wheels. Ford is also excited about a "torque on demand" transfer case and all new Terrain Management System for the 2017 Raptor. Electronic lights will be new as well with an all new LED lighting package and 360-degree camera system."

Okay, if indeed the frame is an aluminum alloy, that may well be a really bad metallurgical choice. Metals fatigue, and probably the most likely major part subject to metal fatigue on a high-speed off-road heavy-weight truck is the frame. When steel fatigues it bends before it breaks. When aluminum fatigues it breaks or shatters. A bent steel frame will allow you to limp home from Out There, but a broken aluminum frame is likely to strand you.

What's the hype about the "upgraded bigger" Fox shocks?

And doesn't a "torque on demand" transfer case mean that the new truck is AWD rather than 4WD?

 

[Chris's FX4]

Upgraded bigger shocks means non adjustable factory Fox 3.0's.

Read the press release from Ford.