New 2017 Raptor, New Section.

[Huck]

Thanks for the time check.



I can "force induct" my 6.2 and make more power than the turbo v-6. That's all I'm saying.

Not reliably. Hennessy and it'll burn down.

Direct injection twin turbo liquid cooler will always build more reliable power and more torqu.

Max psi on a 6.2 is roughly 6-8 psi before it grenades.

Can easily push 20 psi in the ecoboost.

Technology and engineering, physics its a cruel bitch that's never wrong

 

[CoronaRaptor]

As soon as the order banks are open, I'll be ordering a fully loaded 2017 and keeping my 2010 as a spare beater!

 

[Jimbo]

Thanks for the time check.

I can "force induct" my 6.2 and make more power than the turbo v-6. That's all I'm saying.

Stock for stock, the 3.5L will be able to push more power through it than the 6.2L. It is a very able platform and I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 750 out of it easily (pending what the transmission can hold up to).

 

[IronRakMike]

What? Seriously? The same 3.5L Ecoboost is pushing 600hp stock from the GT. Forced induction motors, especially stock ones, have HUGE potential. Not to mention the weight savings and LESS rotational mass within the motor of the 3.5L compared to the 6.2L.

The 6.2L will not hold a candle to the 3.5L especially when the aftermarket catches up to the 3.5L. New turbos, intercoolers, intakes, exhausts, remaps, etc. will blow the doors off ANY 6.2L whether it be supercharged or not.

And why can't I put a TT set-up on my 6.2? I understand your rotational mass argument, however the potential is there for me to make more horsepower with a 6.2 non-turbo to turbo engine than a 3.5 turbo engine. I'm by no means saying the new truck is a ****, I personally am just glad that they didn't stick a turbo'd coyote engine in it, thus killing my trucks resale value.

 

[SilentShooter]

What? Seriously? The same 3.5L Ecoboost is pushing 600hp stock from the GT. Forced induction motors, especially stock ones, have HUGE potential. Not to mention the weight savings and LESS rotational mass within the motor of the 3.5L compared to the 6.2L.

The 6.2L will not hold a candle to the 3.5L especially when the aftermarket catches up to the 3.5L. New turbos, intercoolers, intakes, exhausts, remaps, etc. will blow the doors off ANY 6.2L whether it be supercharged or not.

Put down the crack pipe.. Yes the new 3.5L EB is a nice motor. The reason it is in the GT is due to its size and weight. 600hp in that light & small package works well and 3.5L is the largest size motor you can have with forced induction with GARRA for competition. That is why it has that motor.

But sorry to inform you I can take a 5.0l Coyote, 5.4/5.8L and even the 6.2L with proper internals and head work and make well over 1000hp and ungodly amounts of TQ that your EB will be drooling over. You really will never want to go with bigger Turbos on the 3.5l with the Raptor as you will be adding more lag to the low end. Where as a bigger displacement V8 can utilize a bigger turbo and not have the same lag allowing it to produce better numbers down low and up top.

Yes the new EB is a sweet motor for specific uses, but if you think it can stand up to a properly setup V8 with TT's or even a large whipple you need to lay off the drugs. The Raptor weighs a lot more than the GT, so while in the GT it will have super car performance and can be tuned to rev higher and even utilize bigger turbos, the raptor needs lots of mid range power so my guess is that its going to be tuned to give great bottom end and sacrifice a little on the top end where its not as important as it would be on a high performance car.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Thanks for the time check.

I can "force induct" my 6.2 and make more power than the turbo v-6. That's all I'm saying.

With enough money you can make ANYTHING more powerful than anything. Toss $100k into a Subaru STI and youll push 1000hp and still be street drive-able.

Sure throw $10k into the 6.2 and itll be faster than a stock 3.5, thats obvious. Throw $10k into a 6.2 and $10k into the 3.5 and the 3.5 will kill the 6.2.

It all comes down to who can throw the most money into their motor to make it faster and the guy with the biggest bank account will always win. Its just easier to make a turbo motor faster.

 

[whipplesaurus]

Is the "street mode" for the four-wheel drive system equate to all-wheel drive on the street? That's what I'm most interested in.

 

[SilentShooter]

Stock for stock, the 3.5L will be able to push more power through it than the 6.2L. It is a very able platform and I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 750 out of it easily (pending what the transmission can hold up to).

On the Raptor I doubt that will be possible with out really risking it popping the motor due to detonation. The stock turbo's will be way past efficiency at that point. Remember they need to build this for the truck. Yes the GT I am sure you will be able to get crazy numbers when those are modded, but on the truck if you want to see 700+ HP you are going to give up a lot on the low end having to run different compressors. There are ways to cut down the lag like nitrous and such but not realistic for an off road truck.

 

[Jimbo]

On the Raptor I doubt that will be possible with out really risking it popping the motor due to detonation. The stock turbo's will be way past efficiency at that point. Remember they need to build this for the truck. Yes the GT I am sure you will be able to get crazy numbers when those are modded, but on the truck if you want to see 700+ HP you are going to give up a lot on the low end having to run different compressors. There are ways to cut down the lag like nitrous and such but not realistic for an off road truck.

I agree, but I think it'll hold up at that power. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a DI fan and am glad I got the 6.2L. If I don't like being slower, I'll supercharge it.

 

[SilentShooter]

Is the "street mode" for the four-wheel drive system equate to all-wheel drive on the street? That's what I'm most interested in.

When you put in 4a that is basically in AWD mode. The clutch system in the transfer case will control the power delivery to the front and rear wheels.

Normally you would just drive in 2wd, but if you were in questionable situation where the roads were dry for instance but there were chances of ice or snow then 4a would make sense. You would just get reduced MPG.

4H would be for situations where you are not on hard pavement

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I agree, but I think it'll hold up at that power. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a DI fan and am glad I got the 6.2L. If I don't like being slower, I'll supercharge it.

I am sure the motor itself can hold up to it if they use proper internals, but the compressors will not support that HP and even if you could get them to make enough boost the intake charge temps will be off the charts so you would blow it from detonation. e85 might get you close but you would have to upgrade the fuel system big time to support the fuel demands.

If you change the compressors to get those numbers you will have serious lag and loss of power in the low end to reach those numbers. Its the only down side to turbos, if you want to have lots of boost on the bottom you are going to reach max efficiency well before your top end so the intake charge will be extremely hot .