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IronRakMike

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With enough money you can make ANYTHING more powerful than anything. Toss $100k into a Subaru STI and youll push 1000hp and still be street drive-able.

Sure throw $10k into the 6.2 and itll be faster than a stock 3.5, thats obvious. Throw $10k into a 6.2 and $10k into the 3.5 and the 3.5 will kill the 6.2.

It all comes down to who can throw the most money into their motor to make it faster and the guy with the biggest bank account will always win. Its just easier to make a turbo motor faster.

Geez, alright man, clearly you are all about that boost, because building NA engines to compete with turbo motors are "hella expensive". I hope you enjoy your Raptor in two years or whenever you get one, just try not to annoy the shit out of us "ol timers" with your superior turbo talk.
 

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Geez, alright man, clearly you are all about that boost, because building NA engines to compete with turbo motors are "hella expensive". I hope you enjoy your Raptor in two years or whenever you get one, just try not to annoy the shit out of us "ol timers" with your superior turbo talk.

Im just embracing the inevitable. The big v8 is going to die because of the EPA and government standards, simple as that.

I never said turbos are superior but they are damn good at making power. I own modded v8s in Jeeps and a modded Subaru so Ive seen both worlds in depth.

Would I rather Ford keep the 6.2? Of coarse. Is it going to happen? No. So instead of bitching about it Im moving forward and embracing the new changes.

No amount of bitching is going to get ford to drop a heavy v8 into the new Raptor over the lighter more powerful ecoboost especially when the EPA demands high fuel efficiency standards in the near future.
 

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Im just embracing the inevitable. The big v8 is going to die because of the EPA and government standards, simple as that.

I never said turbos are superior but they are damn good at making power. I own modded v8s in Jeeps and a modded Subaru so Ive seen both worlds in depth.

Would I rather Ford keep the 6.2? Of coarse. Is it going to happen? No. So instead of bitching about it Im moving forward and embracing the new changes.

No amount of bitching is going to get ford to drop a heavy v8 into the new Raptor over the lighter more powerful ecoboost especially when the EPA demands high fuel efficiency standards in the near future.


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Put down the crack pipe.. Yes the new 3.5L EB is a nice motor. The reason it is in the GT is due to its size and weight. 600hp in that light & small package works well and 3.5L is the largest size motor you can have with forced induction with GARRA for competition. That is why it has that motor.



But sorry to inform you I can take a 5.0l Coyote, 5.4/5.8L and even the 6.2L with proper internals and head work and make well over 1000hp and ungodly amounts of TQ that your EB will be drooling over. You really will never want to go with bigger Turbos on the 3.5l with the Raptor as you will be adding more lag to the low end. Where as a bigger displacement V8 can utilize a bigger turbo and not have the same lag allowing it to produce better numbers down low and up top.



Yes the new EB is a sweet motor for specific uses, but if you think it can stand up to a properly setup V8 with TT's or even a large whipple you need to lay off the drugs. The Raptor weighs a lot more than the GT, so while in the GT it will have super car performance and can be tuned to rev higher and even utilize bigger turbos, the raptor needs lots of mid range power so my guess is that its going to be tuned to give great bottom end and sacrifice a little on the top end where its not as important as it would be on a high performance car.


I agree but the issue is no one makes any real performance parts for our motor. I don't see it happening any time soon either so we're gonna have to enjoy our programmers, long tube headers and a cel light for now.


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Im just embracing the inevitable. The big v8 is going to die because of the EPA and government standards, simple as that.

I never said turbos are superior but they are damn good at making power. I own modded v8s in Jeeps and a modded Subaru so Ive seen both worlds in depth.

Would I rather Ford keep the 6.2? Of coarse. Is it going to happen? No. So instead of bitching about it Im moving forward and embracing the new changes.

No amount of bitching is going to get ford to drop a heavy v8 into the new Raptor over the lighter more powerful ecoboost especially when the EPA demands high fuel efficiency standards in the near future.


Its not so much the NA vs Turbos thats got everyone riled up, its that Ford put a 6 cyl. in a Raptor. It doesnt fit the persona of the truck. It should have the balls and sound to match its looks and capabilities. With all of Fords resources, they could've come up with a 500hp, small displacement, TTV8. Something like a 4.0LTT. Call it the EcoBeast. That wouldve been perfect. I dont want a ballsy looking truck that sounds like a camry.
 

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Im just embracing the inevitable. The big v8 is going to die because of the EPA and government standards, simple as that.



I never said turbos are superior but they are damn good at making power. I own modded v8s in Lightnings and a modded CTS-V so Ive seen both worlds in depth.



Would I rather Ford keep the 6.2? Of coarse. Is it going to happen? No. So instead of bitching about it Im moving forward and embracing the new changes.



No amount of bitching is going to get ford to drop a heavy v8 into the new Raptor over the lighter more powerful ecoboost especially when the EPA demands high fuel efficiency standards in the near future.


Lightning and CTS-V?!




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