My truck is dead

[Squatting Dog]

On a positive note... Look what arrived....

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-Greg

 

[BigJ]

Going yo get it right now..

Ford senior tech "everything is fine.. Running great.. Could be intermittent problem caused by aftermarket parts.."

-Greg

Please ask him to explain, in detail, how the aftermarket parts you have installed might result in your coolant mixing with your oil. Record him while he explains. That we gotta hear.

 

[pirate air]

Foamy as in aerated or foamy as in white creamy looking stuff clinging to the dipstick? If its just aerated I doubt there's a head gasket problem, or any mixing of oil or coolant going on. And the problems you described with it bucking and stalling does'nt sound like mechanical engine damage due to oil contamination. I'd expect a concern of noise/low power/ complete engine lock up. The valve train and cam journals would be the first to go since having tighter clearances and the last items to receive oil/pressure in the engine. The oil cooler like jd suggested is another area to check if it is mixing. I had to do one on mine because it was passing coolant and oil back and forth.

 

[Squatting Dog]

It is driving like a champ... Beats the hell out of me.. I so want to drive over the little smuck tech that said that.. Aftermarket parts my ass! What a ******* cop out because they didn't want to work on it over the holiday weekend. I swear, if it acts up again, the throttle will get accidentally stuck and there will be no doubt what is wrong..

-Greg

 

[WorldTour]

In defense of the aftermarket parts comment, It's not to uncommon that the combination of a CAI, aftermarket tune & atmospheric conditions (as is cold temps, rain, etc.) can cause the the MAF & TPS to freak out during various stages of the engine warm-up cycle. usual characteristics are throttle cut-out, throttle off stalling, bucking, etc. During the 5yrs I spent at SVT, we would get a couple similar calls a week from various types vehicle owners this time of year. Granted, low coolant and foamy oil... hopefully it's just due to aeration and not something serious.
Mark

 

[Fred]

It is driving like a champ... Beats the hell out of me.. I so want to drive over the little smuck tech that said that.. Aftermarket parts my ass! What a ******* cop out because they didn't want to work on it over the holiday weekend. I swear, if it acts up again, the throttle will get accidentally stuck and there will be no doubt what is wrong..

-Greg

That is weird...lock her down and let it eat...

Good luck Greg and Happy Thanksgiving....

 

[Ni9mm]

Great! I already had those headlights installed.

 

[Squatting Dog]

In defense of the aftermarket parts comment, It's not to uncommon that the combination of a CAI, aftermarket tune & atmospheric conditions (as is cold temps, rain, etc.) can cause the the MAF & TPS to freak out during various stages of the engine warm-up cycle. usual characteristics are throttle cut-out, throttle off stalling, bucking, etc. During the 5yrs I spent at SVT, we would get a couple similar calls a week from various types vehicle owners this time of year. Granted, low coolant and foamy oil... hopefully it's just due to aeration and not something serious.
Mark

Mark
You are dead on.. I just got off the phone with a Ford Tech from the mothership (Detroit) I guess the senior tech call the help line for assistance. And since the truck had already left the shop, the tech from the mothership called me at home.
Even though aftermarket parts (CAI, Tunes, exhaust, ect) are frowned upon by Ford Motor Company. He explained it is not uncommon for performance type vehicles to exhibit these issues during this time of the year. The wild temp swings and barometer swings can mess with the ecm logic. Especially with it being 40 degrees in the morning, then close to 70 degrees when I took off from lunch. The computer remembered the last drive conditions (drive something) and during the quick jump in the truck and go. The computer was still expecting 40 degree tempature and running an "econ" tune that trims timing and fuel tables.. This caused the computer to freak out and dump fuel to warm the engine quicker and causing flooding conditions. Stalling/bucking/dying/etc The foaminess came from the excess unburned fuel to be dumped into the oil. That is the reason I was showing high and foamy. But when the techs looked at it the ecm correct for the 70 degree tempature and the excess fuel evaporated during the time it was running/idling.. He suggested changing the oil, running stock tune or if I still want to run aftermarket tune and face voided warranty to run performance tune and NOT economy tune except in the summer where there are not wild temp swings inbetween drive cycles.

Over all he was great and I wish I remembered his name, hell he was probably some phone tech support guy, but he seemed to know his stuff. And after reading what Mark said it matches almost verbatim (little more techno babble speak and explaination)

Needless to say, it makes perfect sense to me and I am shocked that he (Ford) actually went out of the way to make sure I knew what was going on with my truck...

So economy tune is coming off tommorrow.. I will report back if what he said was correct or PR smoke...

 

[WorldTour]

I learned a long time ago that excessive techno babble used to explain someone's problem often leads to that person feeling like they're being talked down upon or are being bulshitted so I make a point not to get any more technical than I have to.

Personally for regular driving in this time of year I would just run the stock calibration unless its absolutely a must for the amount of mods done to the vehicle. This is simply because the stock cal is going to be the most versatile to the temp swings this time of year. That's my opinion on it and what I would do for regular day to day driving... now spirited or performance driving go with the performance tune.

Mark

 

[Squatting Dog]

I learned a long time ago that excessive techno babble used to explain someone's problem often leads to that person feeling like they're being talked down upon or are being bulshitted so I make a point not to get any more technical than I have to, to make a point.

Personally for regular driving in this time of year I would just run the stock calibration unless its absolutely a must for the amount of mods done to the vehicle. This is simply because the stock cal is going to be the most versatile to the temp swings this time of year. That's my opinion on it and what I would do for regular day to day driving... now spirited or performance driving go with the performance tune.

Mark

I owe you a beer or two for putting my mind at ease with your explaination of the techno babble nerd speak.