KIDOR Lemon Law Denied and Suspension Warranty Cancelled

[GCATX]

I’m a slow learner. Dad said I wasn’t very smart, but I can lift heavy objects and reach high spaces (I’m 6’8”).

Damn, I bet you get disgusted looking at the top of refrigerators like me. And I am a few inches shorter than you.

 

[Reaper308]

Ok all good points! But let’s face it I’m sure this doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone here that this guy is trying to do this and lie to Ford by swapping everything back and taking the truck in as close to stock as he could return it. I mean we all have seen some of his videos their not rocket scientist hitting the truck with sledgehammers trying to hammer a pinch weld in the wrong direction. It’s like watching Dumb & Dumber! Most of us on here have done some mods to our trucks and don’t expect Ford to pay for our experiments with our stock trucks turning them into something awesome that fits our desires or maybe keeping them bone stock but knowing when we make that jump to mod it’s on us! But I will say I have a great service advisor here in Dallas and they have bent over backwards to help me with any issue and have mentioned things like that rattle might be due to your aftermarket parts but that hasn’t stopped them from helping me get to the bottom of an issue. But I’m honest with them and have a reasonable expectation of the results considering I’ve changed the original plan and gone off script but they have had the truck for three days tracking down a rattle could figure it out but didn’t charge me a dime I picked the truck up with more tape on the truck than I could have even imagined. I did figure rattle out a few days later but they have been great! This guys just a ******** and let’s face it sometimes you just can’t fix stupid!!!

 

[jabroni619]

Yeah I get it but this is just one (maybe not so great) example of ford turning their back on an issue that perhaps they should address. I was denied a TSB for rough shifting transmission because I have an intake. Really?

Do you normally get involved in issues that have nothing to do with you?

Neither does Ford

 

[TurboTJ]

I posted on his channel a few months back saying what most on here say - your modifications, your problem. He replied to say that it has been doing it since it was stock. If that’s true, I have no idea why he would start modifying it before having it fixed. If I were him, I would monitor motor current while driving to get some idea of if the motor is the cause.


And this is what sucks from my perspective. The truck is great stock, but much harder to modify correctly than any vehicle I have ever owned. Oh, you want to level it? Well Ford will claim that’s why the boots are coming off or why the differential housing failed. You want to reinforce the steering? Air intake? We will fight about doing a TSB (apparently, from page 2). Water get into one harness connection on a shock? Well you’re stranded with a Christmas tree of lights on the dash (happened twice after car wash on last raptor). I honestly love the truck, but I’ve come to the conclusion that I can’t modify it with anything beyond some lights. Luckily it’s good enough stock that it doesn’t need much of anything and I would rather have the easy warranty story. Though, that story of the air intake making ford upset makes me want to pull my Roush intake off...

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Damn, I bet you get disgusted looking at the top of refrigerators like me. And I am a few inches shorter than you.

What I really hate is grabbing something off the bottom shelf at a grocery store! Who needs shit that low?

 

[Wojciech Gierczynski]

Alignment. One would assume that Shelby, or whatever installed did a proper alignment after the install. Has this guy address getting it aligned in his videos? Serious question, I have not watched all of it.

I watched his previous videos. After he installed Eibach Springs he did alignment and at that time he was still running stock wheels and tires. Thats why i posted my question if lets say Shelby Raptors come with front already lifted and springs make his steering wheel shake wouldn't all other lifted Raptors either Shelby ones or even ones with Geisers or Eibachs (including mine) do the same thing? 99% people on here that leveled their truck don't have this problem so i can only assume that springs have nothing to do with it.

 

[Halo Raptor]

It did it at every level. Stock. Stock rear with Eibachs. Eibachs and Deavers, Eibachs and 35's, Eibachs and 37's. Back to stock with nothing on the truck at all, still does it just not as bad. The truck has had many other problems he doesnt post on social media. Ford has spent more time fixing that lemon than hes drove it. I have quite a few friends whose trucks have been with Ford for 2-3 months in repair and they still do the same thing they did after. I would suggest not being so hard on the guy for wanting his truck to work. Yes he did modify it and took it to Ford modified. He isnt "fooling" anyone there, theyve had his truck in there before. They never once cancelled his warranty. Maybe one of the Ford techs on here can explain to my how the steering wheel is being ****** out of his hand and you can see how violently it does it in his videos, yet the truck is driving perfectly straight and not bouncing all over the place. Thats where Im at a loss with whats happening to it

 

[smurfslayer]

The entirety of this post should be read to the backdrop of “Get Over It” ; The Eagles ; Hell Freezes Over, 1994.

It did it at every level. Stock. Stock rear with Eibachs. Eibachs and Deavers, Eibachs and 35's, Eibachs and 37's. Back to stock with nothing on the truck at all, still does it just not as bad

To most humans, this would be what we on FRF call “a clue”.

The truck has had many other problems he doesnt post on social media. Ford has spent more time fixing that lemon than hes drove it. I have quite a few friends whose trucks have been with Ford for 2-3 months in repair and they still do the same thing they did after.

Unfortunate. I know many Raptor owners too, all of them have had nothing more than moon roof problems and routine service with in service times higher than 99%.

I would suggest not being so hard on the guy for wanting his truck to work. Yes he did modify it and took it to Ford modified

Nobody has an issue with him wanting his truck to work. We have an issue with him modifying his truck and expecting Ford to pay for repairs that in all certainty were caused by him. Then, when Ford says “no”, he has the chutzpah to at least threaten a lemon law suit. I think that’s bluster myself, because I don’t see any way any lawyer valuing their reputation would take his “case” with even half the known facts.

Him trying to strong-arm Ford into paying for the repairs is basically passing the buck for his F*ckups on to the rest of us. I don’t like the current cost of the Raptor and I don’t want this guy jacking up the price for me and I reckon the rest of us here don’t either.

He should man up, own his f*ckups and move on with life.

He isnt "fooling" anyone there, theyve had his truck in there before. They never once cancelled his warranty. Maybe one of the Ford techs on here can explain to my how the steering wheel is being ****** out of his hand and you can see how violently it does it in his videos, yet the truck is driving perfectly straight and not bouncing all over the place. Thats where Im at a loss with whats happening to it

Did you read any of what FordTechOne wrote? Admittedly, he was a little harsh, but the stealership here should never have tolerated this many mods + the public level of use he put on the truck.

If the truck did this stock, he should have immediately taken it in for service, started a paper trail and stopped any modification dreams until the issue was positively identified and resolved.

It’s water under the bridge now. Ford isn’t going to cover this under warranty, and my money is on Ford. If he’s foolish enough to pay for a lawyer to try and get Ford to cover it, he’s going to lose. I’ve been in a lemon law suit and won, I’ve also gotten over $5k in motor repairs from Allstate’s aftermarket warranty - in many ways, this was harder.

FTO is dead on here. As soon as a Ford rep looked at the truck, it wasn’t even close. Believe it or not, some of these guys are gear heads too and aren’t rubber stamping warranty denials. Honestly in my experience, it’s inexperienced techs who are too quick to jump on the “it’s modified, the sky is falling” cry, but when a mfgr. rep shows, I’ve been covered under warranty.

Honestly, it’s just sad to watch a grown man try to pass the buck like he is.

 

[GordoJay]

It did it at every level. Stock. Stock rear with Eibachs. Eibachs and Deavers, Eibachs and 35's, Eibachs and 37's. Back to stock with nothing on the truck at all, still does it just not as bad. The truck has had many other problems he doesnt post on social media. Ford has spent more time fixing that lemon than hes drove it. I have quite a few friends whose trucks have been with Ford for 2-3 months in repair and they still do the same thing they did after. I would suggest not being so hard on the guy for wanting his truck to work. Yes he did modify it and took it to Ford modified. He isnt "fooling" anyone there, theyve had his truck in there before. They never once cancelled his warranty. Maybe one of the Ford techs on here can explain to my how the steering wheel is being ****** out of his hand and you can see how violently it does it in his videos, yet the truck is driving perfectly straight and not bouncing all over the place. Thats where Im at a loss with whats happening to it

You're supporting the idea that Julio is as dumb as a box full of rocks ... hopefully his YT income stream will compensate. The good news is that he's now free to find a more competent shop.

 

[GordoJay]

He should man up, own his f*ckups and move on with life.

Bingo. A perfect summary.

My prediction is that he trades it in for a TRX. I can't wait.