KIDOR Lemon Law Denied and Suspension Warranty Cancelled

[Jakenbake]

Just watching again, did anyone else catch that he's tried to lemon law 2 other vehicles? I think he said a BMW and a Teslea(?)

Noticed that as well.

 

[shooters1380]

Just watching again, did anyone else catch that he's tried to lemon law 2 other vehicles? I think he said a BMW and a Teslea(?)

Yes one was a BMW and I forgot what the second vehicle was


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[Sonicsunspot]

So this guy has lemon law’d multiple vehicles - most of us probably go our whole life without going that route ONCE. Agree with the earlier poster that mentioned jerks like this make cars much more expensive for the rest of us.

 

[DFS]

Seems like he definitely understands the Lemon Law's and how to skirt them, he's been successful once thus far on this BMW like he said, and unsuccessful on a Tesla. RAM better hope he doesn't get a TRX because he's already set the precedent that it's a Lemon because one oversized bolt...

 

[shooters1380]

I don’t personally care for his videos. Case in point when he refers to a “bolt kit”. Is he referring to RPG’s “bolt kit” or just any bolt-on mid travel/long travel kit?

As far as a heavily modified vehicle, his truck isn’t very modified, but I guess using relative terms such as “heavily” depends on ones perspective. Having said that I do not agree with returning to stock to “cheat” the system.

Installed in the driveway can be just as good or better than some professional shops, always comes down to the installer.

As far as denying warranty over him driving it offroad. What constitutes abuse when the vehicle was marketed as such?

Yeah your right for sure. Really makes no difference if repairs are done under a bridge in a homeless encampment or in the secure area of a quality shop using all the latest tools. My point was basically raising the question, is he is qualified to wrench on that truck?

Just because someone knows how to perform a task doesn’t mean they do it correctly. If that were the case, you’d never have any complaints from customers who take their cars to a so called, “certified mechanic.”

I know if I’m having the port engine on my aircraft overhauled, I don’t take it to a guy that says, “yeah I seen this done a few times and I’m pretty sure I know how to do it.”


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[smurfslayer]

His issues all came after that work was done. Even going back to stock, Ford has a reasonable claim that what he did, is what caused his issue. Not saying that is the fact, but it is plausible

Agreed.

He modified his truck, beats the living hell out of it, and then wants his issues covered under factory warranty? He even admits that when he brings it to the dealer, he swaps back to to factory tire size so they don’t know he’s running oversize tires. He’s blatantly commits warranty fraud and films it. I hope he not only loses in court, but ends up with a stack of legal bills. Idiots like this guy are what drives up the cost of vehicles for the rest of us.

@FordTechOne and I are frequently on the opposite side of warranty / lemon law discussions, but, I have 100% respect for whatever argument he brings because of his expertise in the field and his ability to articulate to us lay people how the mod or mods can and will impact collateral components.

I have to agree with @FordTechOne here, though not that he ‘beat the living hell out of it’, because any Raptor can take a licking that would leave some other vehicles shedding suspension components. But, I can see how he’s possibly put on a bunch of things that taxed the suspension components at an increased rate, worn out some components and then just got frustrated and started blaming everyone else.

at about 7 minutes in he’s complaining about jerking ( queue @Oldfart to bring some class to this thread ).

so... I’ve had this kind of thing that the guys at RA warn you about, specifically, don’t put your thumbs in the wheel... with pretty much every vehicle I’ve taken off road. Maybe he didn’t fully articulate what’s going on here but ... I didn’t see any death shake.

Ford, and all OEMs for that matter, have zero interest in wasting their resources to figure out issues caused by people modifying their vehicles with aftermarket components.

I’ve found a few stealerships willing to do work with aftermarket doodads, at cost of course. Some things they won’t touch, and I completely understand that. But yeah, they don’t want to be on the hook for seen mods and the inevitable unseen mods. Yeah, you can compromise the factory warranty but there are some places that will work with modified vehicles- but again, it’s pay to play.

~12 minutes in he claims that his lemon law lawyer says he has a case. He shouldn’t have a problem naming the law firm then. I don’t believe this part of the video.

yeah, he’s got safety issues... but he caused them.

If he had this issue back when it was completely stock and brought it to the dealer to diagnose and potentially fix it, it would have started a paper trail documenting the issue even when it was stock and he’d have a more arguing case

right.

So this guy has lemon law’d multiple vehicles - most of us probably go our whole life without going that route ONCE. Agree with the earlier poster that mentioned jerks like this make cars much more expensive for the rest of us

To be fair, most consumers are in the dark about what to do when a vehicle becomes a problem and most stealership service departments are not much help for vehicles with repeat / related problems. I’ve been successful in a lemon law suit and gotten about 5k worth of engine work out of an allstate extended ‘warranty’. Neither were easy, fun or experiences I want to repeat, but, the experience has taught me to document, document, document and if there’s a weird concern or issue, I tell the stealership about to “make a paper trail” just incase.

I can’t see how this guy could get a lawyer to look at his situation, honestly, and say ‘sure, let’s sue Ford!’. Maybe he wasn’t as forthcoming with info but his lawyer would probably want to know about his exploits returning the truck to stock like condition, presumably to try to get Ford to cover his rather extensively modified truck as if it were not modified. That’s warranty fraud as has been previously pointed out and could cause some problems for them in court.

So my takeaway is this guy has a jerking problem alright.

 

[RaptorFun]

I’m certain @Oldfart will be along shortly...

 

[zombiekiller]

1. I know Helio. He is a good dude. The truck he has now has given him a lot of weird steering issues. I think it is preposterous that y'all want to paint him as the devil because he wants Ford to fix the steering behavior. He's legit had to tighten the steering wheel regularly due to the truck shaking the nut loose. that's insane.

2. I'll agree that once you change something, you've backed yourself into a corner. If you modify any vehicle, you MUST be prepared to foot the bill for whatever breaks. (I've been in that boat since about 4 months into raptor ownership. I accept my consequences.)

3. I'm pretty sure that if there actually WAS a fix, that Helio would pay for it. Unfortunately, there is no fix to the steering issue that he's been having.

I've had my truck do the same "death shake" that he has experienced exactly ONCE. When it happened, the computer logic ****** the steering wheel so hard that it blew a joint on the steering shaft. I take this with a grain of salt though. I can't blame a steering rack that was designed for 35" tires and claim that since I changed the entire suspension and put 40" tires on the truck, the steering rack should work exactly as intended.

Lastly, I would happily buy an upgraded steering rack if someone offered one. Guess what? there isn't one single company that I've found that is willing to undertake designing a heavy-duty EPAS rack, or an EPAS box to support swingset steering. Until someone offers one, or unless you can find a programmer that can loop the steering "sensors" in order to run a hydraulic setup, we're all stuck with the factory bits.


yes, I said nut loose. deal with it.

 

[Oldfart]

I'm with FTO on this one. That being said, I am going to send Helio a copy of my new video series, "Jerking Tips From The Pro's". I think his poor technique in the video is to blame, he's trying to jerk it with no hands. That's both dangerous and foolish!

 

[smurfslayer]

Is it all in the wrist?