Funny how if you buy it from Ford it`s okay

[richnot]

It`s funny how you can buy so many Ford parts to modify your street car

Fordracingparts.com Mustang....Cams, Intercooler, CAI, CAI with a tuner,Throttle body,Flywheels and the list goes on and on. And we all know the parts are not made by Ford, the same parts we can buy from reputable manufactures.

Right from Performance.Ford.com

DEARBORN - Ford Performance has a long history of offering performance engine calibrations. These calibrations offer an enhanced driving experience. They are developed by Ford Performance calibration engineers during countless hours of dyno testing and real time ‘seat-of-the-pants’ drive-ability evaluation. The resulting calibrations offer improved power, drive-ability, and pass Ford Performance’s stringent durability tests. Performance calibrations are available for U.S. and Canadian vehicles. Premium fuel is required.

What is new in the Ford Performance calibration catalog?
Ford Performance is pleased to announce 2 new calibrations. The 2019-2020 Ranger Eco Boost calibration M-9603-REB and the 2018-2020 Mustang GT calibration M-9603-M8B.

A performance engine calibration for the Ranger? What are the high-lights?
The Ford Performance calibration for the 2.3L Eco Boost in the Ranger adds torque and horsepower through out the RPM range. It also improves the throttle response offering better drive-ability. There is a 45 HP gain at 4,500 RPM. There is a 60 lb/ft of torque gain at 2,500 RPM. There is also an optimized shift schedule for the 10-speed automatic transmission. Drivers will feel crisper, more precise shifts.

How is the M-9603-REB Ranger calibration installed in the vehicle?
The Ranger calibration and new Mustang M-9603-M8B calibration are delivered with the new Ford Performance Pro Cal 4 tool. When you order the Ranger calibration, you will receive the Pro Cal 4 tool, a voucher to register and a performance air filter. You download the Pro Cal 4 software to your computer and connect the tool with the provided USB cable. The Pro Cal 4 tool will automatically update. The Pro Cal 4 tool then connects to the OBD 2 port located under the driver’s side dash.

 

[pastorwug]

It's ALL about $$$$, and even more $$$$.
Ford Performance parts are expensive, and typically they want to install them for you at maximum $$$$.

Buy the Spicer, buy the Kings, get what you want and drive like you love it.

 

[FordTechOne]

I guess I don’t see what is “funny”? Many manufacturers offer performance parts and packages for their vehicles.

A large majority of Ford Performance parts are manufactured in-house. That includes crate engines/short blocks, rotating assemblies, axle assemblies, ring & pinions, intake manifolds, and many of the exhaust systems. As stated in the excerpts you posted, the calibrations are developed by Ford Engineering, not an outside company. That is why the Ford calibrations tend to produce more conservative gains than some aftermarket tuners; the still need to pass OE durability testing.

Just because Ford Performance sells a part does not mean it’s warranty compliant. Many parts, including the camshafts you mention, do not include a Ford Performance Warranty, and any issues related to the part are not covered by the factory warranty.

However, many parts/packages are available with a 3yr/36k warranty, including the calibrations you mentioned. That is rare in the aftermarket.

 

[Kashoggio]

Wish the raptor would see some more love from them, don’t see a lot of tricked out rangers. Now Mopar does their after sales performance right

 

[Glenn Laborda]

Just turned my 14 Gen1 for a Nitemare! Holy power! Gonna hang on till Gen3 rolls out! Hoping for a V8?

 

[richnot]

I guess I don’t see what is “funny”? Many manufacturers offer performance parts and packages for their vehicles.

A large majority of Ford Performance parts are manufactured in-house. That includes crate engines/short blocks, rotating assemblies, axle assemblies, ring & pinions, intake manifolds, and many of the exhaust systems. As stated in the excerpts you posted, the calibrations are developed by Ford Engineering, not an outside company. That is why the Ford calibrations tend to produce more conservative gains than some aftermarket tuners; the still need to pass OE durability testing.

Just because Ford Performance sells a part does not mean it’s warranty compliant. Many parts, including the camshafts you mention, do not include a Ford Performance Warranty, and any issues related to the part are not covered by the factory warranty.

However, many parts/packages are available with a 3yr/36k warranty, including the calibrations you mentioned. That is rare in the aftermarket.

I don`t want to stir the pot. I remember a very headstrong friend of mine ready to go at it with someone because they disagreed on a Harley being 100% american made. It started over a burnt out headlight bulb that was OEM and made in China

I agree with you and funny was the wrong word of choice. I know Ford and a the majority of other manufactures produce their own parts. But for example Synergy Manufacturing is a huge aftermarket suppler and the also make some of the steering components for OEM`S. A car would cost maybe 3 to 4 times as much if they had to make every part, Just like the new Jeep using the same transmission that is used in a MB. Dana/Spicer for the rears and the variety of manufactures for transfer cases a lot of OEM parts come from the same plant that makes parts for another brand

I found this interesting that a Ford 10.25 axle is sometimes called a sterling axle but it is a Ford axle made by a Ford owned company called Visteon and they manufacture axles for other car companies. American axle and manufacturing make ring and pinion sets for GM and dodge and the parts are considered OEM.

Could it be like a group buy that is offered here? Its`s less of a cost for one manufacture of parts to make OEM parts for different car companies?

Do you know if the following is true? The Ford Performance warranty is provided by Ford Performance, not Ford Motor Company. If you have a failure that is determined to be caused by the tune in the first three years or 36k miles Ford Performance pays for the repairs. After 3/36k Ford Performance provides no warranty.

 

[Mister Pinky]

I’d trust a Ford Performance tune over the majority of these so called “tuners” out there. Look how many threads you see on this site alone with people having problems because of their aftermarket tune.

Any clown with just enough knowledge to be dangerous and a laptop can call himself a “tuner”. But not just any clown can walk into the Ford engineering department and start programming tunes that could potentially cost them hundreds of thousands in warranty repairs if something goes wrong.

I know the price is a bit to swallow, but these are not simple engines anymore. Ford has put some serious technology into every motor they sell because of emissions, economy, and customer power expectations. We’ve come a long way from the old pushrod 302s.

 

[richnot]

That would be why I would buy a tune and High end programmer for the plug and play. Not all tuners are clowns and it also depends on what you mean by Tune, are you talking about bringing your truck to a tuner and having it done on a Dyno or a plug and play ? There are companies out there like Livernois Motorsports, SCT, and others that have been around for years.
I agree that Ford technology into their vehicles and like FordTechOne stated a Ford tune may be on the conservative side but they are changing the parameters like other tunes do.

 

[Traffic22]

Full disclosure: I’m a FRPP fan boy.

With that said, the parts are engineered far better than almost all the aftermarket parts you buy. The fit, finish, and quality meet or exceed what you get from the factory.

I’ve had multiple tunes from FRPP (14 Focus St, 15 Mustang GT) both performed flawlessly. Drivability was as good or better than the factory tune, and the power was noticeably better.

As an example, I bought the JLT air/oil separator for my Raptor, but the routing of the lines, and the overall fit was below what I had from FRPP air/oil devices on my other cars. (I was disappointed enough I returned mine.)

The benefit of the FRPP parts is the in house testing, warranty, and excellent customer service.

I actually emailed FRPP when I bought my Raptor and asked if they were going to release a 3.5 eco boost tune. They said no, because the amount of safe HP they could make and still be CARB legal would not be enough to justify the cost.

I’m sure there are plenty of guys running tunes with no issue, but if the company who makes the truck says it’s not safe, I’ll take their word for it.

Just my experience.


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[GordoJay]

... They said no, because the amount of safe HP they could make and still be CARB legal would not be enough to justify the cost...

Too bad they can't make a tune for the rest of the country. Refuse to sell it to Californios.