FORD Raptor (A garage decoration piece)

[GTTXRAP]

39k miles. LOL. Don't want to hear the complaining. More miles than most trucks without issues.

Meh...

 

[GTTXRAP]

How is the ram holding up mate?
Hope you like it. I know you will be back to our raptor forum soon for gen3.
I am raptor for life now.

Still waiting on a pic at your house British cheapo.

 

[Blusmbl]

Most of this is the dealership more than the brand itself. Since 03, I've bought 10 vehicles from the same dealer, 8 from the same salesman until he retired after 23 years due to health. Most of them never saw any service other than oil changes. When they did have an issue, I always received a loaner and the work was completed quickly. If you form a good relationship with a dealer, they'll go out of their way to make you happy. I sent one of my relatives to my dealer with a Focus for the clutch issue and they gave her a nearly new Expedition Limited to drive.

Exactly. My girlfriend's parents had an issue with one of their cars, less than a year old. Their Ford dealer had it for about a week and a half to diagnose a whine after a cold start and they had a loaner for the entire time.

 

[mamula]

Still waiting on a pic at your house British cheapo.

Lol. Please give me sometime to deal with my haters first!

 

[smurfslayer]

Ecoboost are a good engine , but are maintenance intensive. If you want good reliability , 3000 mile oil changes (prevent timing chain /phaser issues) , 10,000 mile spark plug changes (prevent misfires) , Air filters changed or cleaned same time as oil change (prevent turbo overspeed). This is what i do on my Tremor zero mechanical issues coming up on 30,000 miles now.

My honest opinion it was a poor choice for only engine option for a Gen2 raptor. If it had a 5.0 available i would have one in my driveway.

I think @NASSTY encapsulated this. The N/A five-oh is a damn fine motor, but it lacks the torque necessary to produce anything short of a high 14 quarter mile truck, where the eco is putting down significantly more torque, significantly earlier than the 5.0.

also, the engine oil analysis reports from me and several others here seem to debunk the change the oil every 3k miles habit. I have to admit a healthy dose of skepticism overtook me when I saw the oil change interval at 10,000 miles, but all 3 of my reports have had solid numbers on the analysis, my last was about 7600 miles from the previous change. I admit, I don’t feel ‘comfortable’ with oil changes past 5k miles but times have changed apparently.

 

[rtmozingo]

I think @NASSTY encapsulated this. The N/A five-oh is a damn fine motor, but it lacks the torque necessary to produce anything short of a high 14 quarter mile truck, where the eco is putting down significantly more torque, significantly earlier than the 5.0.

also, the engine oil analysis reports from me and several others here seem to debunk the change the oil every 3k miles habit. I have to admit a healthy dose of skepticism overtook me when I saw the oil change interval at 10,000 miles, but all 3 of my reports have had solid numbers on the analysis, my last was about 7600 miles from the previous change. I admit, I don’t feel ‘comfortable’ with oil changes past 5k miles but times have changed apparently.

Agreed. My first change was at 7500k and they said my truck looked fantastic, to run 10k as recommended. Oil is better nowadays.

 

[1BAD454SS]

I think @NASSTY encapsulated this. The N/A five-oh is a damn fine motor, but it lacks the torque necessary to produce anything short of a high 14 quarter mile truck, where the eco is putting down significantly more torque, significantly earlier than the 5.0.

also, the engine oil analysis reports from me and several others here seem to debunk the change the oil every 3k miles habit. I have to admit a healthy dose of skepticism overtook me when I saw the oil change interval at 10,000 miles, but all 3 of my reports have had solid numbers on the analysis, my last was about 7600 miles from the previous change. I admit, I don’t feel ‘comfortable’ with oil changes past 5k miles but times have changed apparently.

From being on ecoboost forums for 4+ years it seems the people that had timing chain issues also had extend oil change intervals. For almost the cost of the oil analysis you could pay for another oil change and know you have good oil. Oil change is cheap insurance

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/engine/common-issues-3-5l-ecoboost/

 

[smurfslayer]

From being on ecoboost forums for 4+ years it seems the people that had timing chain issues also had extend oil change intervals. For almost the cost of the oil analysis you could pay for another oil change and know you have good oil. Oil change is cheap insurance

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/engine/common-issues-3-5l-ecoboost/

Sure, but you don’t have any meaningful data about what was in the oil you just changed.

That article looks a little dated and I would need to see much more of a data set to make the leap from longer oil change intervals to stretched timing chains resulting in P0229 / P0016 codes, necessitating a replacement of components. It’s not impossible, but it’s also not the most likely contributor to the condition. that TSB admits to a stretched timing chain but it would be more accurate to say it’s a timing chain stretched beyond spec. They all stretch, especially just after the start of use, for the first few duty cycles, then they stabilize and stretch in gradual increments until out of spec. once it’s more or less getting out of spec the chain and sprockets wear on each other in abnormal patterns, causing the imprecise timing and codes.

 

[kid icarus]

From being on ecoboost forums for 4+ years it seems the people that had timing chain issues also had extend oil change intervals. For almost the cost of the oil analysis you could pay for another oil change and know you have good oil. Oil change is cheap insurance

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/engine/common-issues-3-5l-ecoboost/

I think what you are stating is something that makes many feel better about the situation. The reality is that these cam phasers fail on ecoboosts with any oil change interval. It's not a matter of how clean the oil is. It's actually how much of it makes it to the phasers on cold start.

 

[Jake17]

The reality is that cam phasers fail on ecoboosts with any oil change interval. It's not a matter of how clean the oil is. It's actually how much of it makes it to the phasers on cold start.

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