Eco boost raptor?!?

[Captain Awesome]

Thats a pretty huge loss of torque. No way would I go 5.0.

Ya in stock form in the Stang but you can get more out of it no prob. a little tweak and tune and i'am sure you can get it putting out the same numbers. Ford really left a lot on the plate with the 5.0L hell theres guys with custom tunes and intakes on the Stangs and get 400+ rwhp plus With Chevy And Dodge upping the numbers of there motor line up you think the next Raptor is going to have low numbers.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Is the current 5.0 Mustang direct injected?

 

[Boss Hoss]

With the new motors for the 15 model sad fact is that the 6.2l with a 5 star tune, exhaust, CAI which does perform nicely from a stop or slow speed is going in the trash can. The turbo is going to be the choice in the Raptor like it or not..

Personally by doing this and the truck will be better on the street will kill off buyers such as myself. As we can see even at FRF the vast majority of trucks are street queens so Ford is not going to cost themselves too many sales from the off-road guys.

 

[Chris's FX4]

Is the current 5.0 Mustang direct injected?

No, and neither is the 5.0 in the 2015 Mustang and 2015 F150 models. For now at least.

 

[DubbsFaris]

With the new motors for the 15 model sad fact is that the 6.2l with a 5 star tune, exhaust, CAI which does perform nicely from a stop or slow speed is going in the trash can. The turbo is going to be the choice in the Raptor like it or not..

Personally by doing this and the truck will be better on the street will kill off buyers such as myself. As we can see even at FRF the vast majority of trucks are street queens so Ford is not going to cost themselves too many sales from the off-road guys.

Thats EXACTLY right. Ford has to figure out a way to make the Raptor and all F150 variants get 25 mpg. Thats just fact. But, if Dodge can do it, Ford can. Lets wait and see what Ford does before we pile on. I havent seen Ford take very many steps backwards since 1980 in either MPG or perfomance. But your comment about most buyers being street queens is absolutely SPOT ON. If you count all the guys who bought a Raptor for offroad use, and then count all the guys who HAVENT bought a raptor because of the fuel ecenomy, I bet its 2 to 1 if not more in market share increase building a 25 mpg raptor. Its not the popular FRF answer, but its a viable Ford beancounter answer.

No, and neither is the 5.0 in the 2015 Mustang and 2015 F150 models. For now at least.

For now is right, but I do hear Ford is going to get quite a bit more out of the 5.0 without DI, perhaps even 500HP, which turns the argument against the 5.0 completely upside down. Less weight, modification friendly, and reliability with a 20mpg powerplant might be the answer I would offer. Wouldnt that offering satisfy both sides of the market?

 

[Hockster]

I havent seen Ford take very many steps backwards since 1980 in either MPG or perfomance.

I cringe at this!! lol... I give you the conquest and mistake. aka
Contour and mystic the $6 billion attempt into the small car after teh tempo. brakes that wouldnt stop me and 3 other big guys in a t-bird and we ran through a red light cause of it. 5 sets of brakes on my F150 in 10k miles all for roughness.
Ok, im done... Lets revise this to the 90s ok.. ha ha ha

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

For now is right, but I do hear Ford is going to get quite a bit more out of the 5.0 without DI, perhaps even 500HP, which turns the argument against the 5.0 completely upside down. Less weight, modification friendly, and reliability with a 20mpg powerplant might be the answer I would offer. Wouldnt that offering satisfy both sides of the market?

This.

 

[Rakimb17]

I still can't believe how many of you are so anti turbo. If you don't think you will get 6.2 power out of an ecoboost you're crazy. And I'm sure svt would go with a bigger turbo setup or bump the tune wayyyyy up.

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[Hockster]

Thats EXACTLY right. Ford has to figure out a way to make the Raptor and all F150 variants get 25 mpg. Thats just fact. But, if Dodge can do it, Ford can. Lets wait and see what Ford does before we pile on. I havent seen Ford take very many steps backwards since 1980 in either MPG or perfomance. But your comment about most buyers being street queens is absolutely SPOT ON. If you count all the guys who bought a Raptor for offroad use, and then count all the guys who HAVENT bought a raptor because of the fuel ecenomy, I bet its 2 to 1 if not more in market share increase building a 25 mpg raptor. Its not the popular FRF answer, but its a viable Ford beancounter answer.



For now is right, but I do hear Ford is going to get quite a bit more out of the 5.0 without DI, perhaps even 500HP, which turns the argument against the 5.0 completely upside down. Less weight, modification friendly, and reliability with a 20mpg powerplant might be the answer I would offer. Wouldnt that offering satisfy both sides of the market?

I agree 100%... A 5.0 getting 20mpg im in!!!

 

[jackrook]

I think the biggest thing with Raptor owners is that we actually plan for the worst.

What I mean is....based on number, only 10 percent of Raptor owners are on the forum. And of those 10%, how many actually heavily modify their trucks to go off roading hardcore? Another 10%?? Which brings the over all total of raptor owners who abuse their truck(like it's supposed to ) to 1%. That's it. Literally 1% of all Raptor owners do pretty serious off roading

Of that 1% there is a big consensus of sticking with that 6.2 for the torque and HP WHEN YOU NEES IT THE MOST!!! If you sacrifice MPG while cruising around town, you're ok with that because you have the confidence that you have the powerful engine WHEN YOU REALLY REALLY NEED IT 60 miles from the nearest paved road stuck in the middle of 2 feet deep mud.

1% of Raptor owners plan for that. Which is a situation that may never happen. Why do I run dual spares, a floor jack, a power inverter, and more tools then Home Depot LOL?? Because if the time ever comes, and I hope it doesn't, I'll be ready for whatever the trail throws at me.

I think a lot of frustration over smaller engines isn't because people wanna save MPG, because we all hate putting $140 every two weeks in gas. It's because people want the piece of mind that the power will be there when they need it most. That 1 time. All it takes is one time.

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