youtube them in moab and places like that. I couldn't believe it. My aunt also used to be the main engineer for jag, landrover, ford, and now harley davidson. She goes off roading with them all the time and is floored everytime as to what they do. The raptor will go off road much faster, but the range rover will out climb it everytime, even running those 20's.
she was the "main" engineer? there's hundreds of engineers of all backgrounds working for those companies what do you mean?