melvimbe
FRF Addict
Taking into account the kind of deal you're able to broker shouldn't really be considered when looking at how the factory priced the truck. I was offered a Raptor R at MSRP, but I declined. I also see that Dan Cummins has a Mojave TRX online for $20k over MSRP. But that doesn't mean the TRX, generally speaking, is overpriced, or is overpriced when compared to a Raptor R. It just means that TRX has been overpriced by the dealer - not the manufacturer.
But since you cannot buy direct from the manufacturer, only through dealers, the MSRP is practically useless to consumers. The price for which a consumer can realistically obtain a product is what should be used. Throw out MSRP, outlier special deals in limited numbers or from your brother-in-law.
And really, 'over-priced' is sort of vague, because it implies value per price, and value can be very subjective. Since the R is selling at the high prices, as are Raptors and most other vehicles, it's hard to say that the R is overpriced...in this market. For a lot of individuals, it absolutely is overpriced, but clearly Ford has enough buyers.
As far as the general question of being over the R...I don't think I was that in to. While the HP is appealing, the extra cost to own in terms of price, gas, insurance, and whatever else far outweighs the HP. I would have to have a lot more disposable income for that to make sense to me.
Honestly, as much as I'm getting the itch to upgrade like I typically do around 4 years of owning a vehicle, still feels like a horrible time to be upgrading vehicles, and the new Raptor and any other vehicle are not giant leaps better than my Gen2. This is especially true since I can't easily shop around at dealerships like I used to. Maybe things will change a few years from now, but doesn't look like I want to be a buyer of any vehicle anytime soon.