2016 [2017*] Raptor test mule spy shots

[bstoner59]

that was the speed limit mn and it's e-30 Rock's

Hahaha ya that's what I meant


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[SilentShooter]

While I would love for an updated 6.2L I am putting more money on it being a TVS 5.0L coyote or possibly the 5.8L. The 5.8L with a TVS would be a monster in the Raptor. They could finally release a Raptor XT

 

[Wilson]

the'll keep selling the 6.2 in the f250

 

[WyoStorm]

Yes. They already said it'll be in the 2017 F-series trucks.

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[pirate air]

It's not a rumor. Definitely happening. They recently sent out letters requesting existing 6.2 owners to allow Ford to use their trucks for long term emissions testing. Why would anyone do that for an engine that is... no... more?

Last time they real world tested the 6.2 emissions, the engine was actually cleaning the air! 6.2FTW!

 

[WyoStorm]

True!

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[Wilson]

that's why I run my 6.2 using e-30 ethanol to clean the air

 

[pirate air]

that's why I run my 6.2 using e-30 ethanol to clean the air

But how does e-30 make your farts smell??

 

[Truckzor]

Last time they real world tested the 6.2 emissions, the engine was actually cleaning the air! 6.2FTW!

YES!

Emissions Test: Car vs. Truck vs. Leaf Blower

 

[Reptar]

That was my point. If they really wanted to kill the "Raptor" why tie up a tiny production line for a specialty engine that is only sending out 1500 units a year. It's a waste of space and time for Ford. They are doing it to have easy access should they need it. 1500 units a year is a fraction of the output they had going for the Raptors. You have to figure the engines come right off the line that the Super Duty 6.2's are made and there are a few tweaks made to Raptorize it


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Do you not realize how modular engines work? They're modular so parts interchange, assembly lines interchange, and it's not like the old days. They don't build the raptor engines as "superduty 6.2's" then send them off to a specialty area to "raptorize" them. It's the same frigging engine. The superduties use a different cam profile, big whoop, they aren't un-installing superduty cams and installing special raptor cams. Ever watch the show on discovery about ford's assembly lines? It's similar for the engine plants. It's no difference what cam they drop in from the start. Know what they also do that with? 5.0's between mustang and truck 5.0's. And umpteen other vehicles. Gen 2 Lightnings, identical 5.4 as every other truck 5.4 but with a different piston. It's not an entire different wing/factory/line where they raptorize anything. It's all done on the exact same assembly line as everything else rolls down, it's cake for them to use a different part here or there and keep it all on the same lines. that's modular motors. And there's nothing special about the Raptor 6.2 vs any other f150 6.2, it's the same in the HD trucks, same in the platinums, same in any f150 available with a 6.2.

Ford isn't bringing the 6.2 back in the Raptor, even as an option. All that would do is completely pull the carpet out on everything they're saying with the 3.5 TT EB for the new Raptor...."if ford says the new 3.5 TT EB is so great why are they bringing back the outdated 6.2?", that's not what they want, they aren't going to do it. They are not going to revamp it to make more output than their flagship new 3.5 ecoboost, that's against everything Ford is building to. And they certainly aren't going to offer it in it's current state with lesser hp, terrible mpg and worse emissions just to lower their CAFE standards to appease a few v8 diehards that prefer a v8 with less power over a v6 TT with more (because again, they aren't going to make the 6.2 lay down more and overshadow the new 3.5 TT).

I'd be more of a chance that they'd offer a 5.0 or 5.2 variant of an ecoboost down the road maybe in an '18 or '19 Raptor as an optional engine, kill 3 birds with one stone....further the ecoboost nameplate, make the v8 diehards happy, and have a ridiculous power plant for a next gen gt500 and optional raptor engine, and still have better mpg than the gas hungry, heavy iron block, outdated 2v, cafe-dragging, 6.2

And it would be nothing for ford to continue the 6.2 in a superduty only line. The 6.8 V10 was always a superduty only line as well. They need to keep one big gas engine for the superduty line for guys who don't have the $8k premium to go diesel, so the 6.2 will stick around even if it's soley for that. I wouldn't be surprised though if in the not so distant future, even that would get replaced and Ford would make an ecoboost gasser the base engine for a superduty. That would also turn the world upside down with a "you can't do that! it'll ruin it!" but if they're so confident in their EB lineup, I could definitely see them doing it. They've already done several of those big changes that everyone said they can't do that, yet they've all been a success so far, so that could very well be the next....

"a 3.5L V6 Ecoboost TT in a GT supercar? You can't do that!"
"a 3.5L V6 Ecoboost TT in a Raptor? You can't do that!"
"a 2.7L V6 Ecoboost in a F150? You can't do that!"
"a 2.4L Ecoboost 4 cylinder in a Mustang? You can't do that!"
"a flat plane crank in a 5.2L V8? You can't do that!"
"a x.xL Ecoboost in a Superduty? You can't do that!"