So for those that do offroad, which are less and less on this forum these days. The Gen 3, and guess the R, isn't yet a great offroad platform. The stock suspension really isn't up to the job and a bit disappointed that Ford apparently did not do an overhaul for the R. The bed cant handle much weight (spares, jack, gas, etc = no Bueno), and we don't yet have any real after-market suspension setups to compensate. A mid-travel Gen2 outperforms the Gen 3 setup with the best the aftermarket offers. As much as I want the Gen 3, and the R, I am sticking with the SVC Gen2 that gets me into, and out of, plenty of oh shit moments every run...