GEN 2 Whipple Stage 1 Kit Feedback Thread!

Feedback on Whipple Tune


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10SpdsOfFury

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I just plugged in my Tomahawk and watched the coolant temp while I did a WOT pull up the onramp and it hit 220 outside temp is 63.


Edit I will go buy some water wetter and see what happens.
 
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Let’s see what our experimenter finds.


Explain to me the heat load with said truck at 14,000# GVW up a 6* grade in the dead of summer. I can guarantee that engine will hit a temp range and hold that for the duration, ie not lose temperate control. Why anyone would think that heat loads while driving around town with a tune even remotely compare to sustained loads why developing aforementioned power is beyond me. Most manufacturers have their own blend of anti-freeze installed in the truck. If some small cheap bottle of fluid would increase the thermal efficiency if the system 10* below nominal temps it would surely do so at power allowing for a smaller total mechanical package. Hint: it doesn't.

Water Wetter is for track cars that aren't allowed to bring antifreeze on track, that stuff creates incredible hazards on track as it leaks out.

I'm throwing the BS flag. Warning, education centered around thermal dynamics.

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---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 PM ----------

I’ll be honest...

And I shouldn’t have been so blunt previously.

I was very surprised. From what I can deduct, the current cooling capacity of the radiator and tubing is not manufactured with an excess of capacity. The truck, especially when leaned out and pressed with timing... generates very high bursts of heat. Gentle driving isn’t an issue. Repeated WOT on a hot day, joyriding around, and it gets into trouble. This was not an issue with a stock tune.

I had ABSOLUTELY no expectation water wetter was going to do ANYTHING. I was fooling around. I was going to look for an alternative and augmented means of cooling in a hardware fashion.

I threw it in there and was truly surprised. I have no reason to make it up. I’m not an internet troll and the majority of the information I’ve provided has been pretty useful. I wouldn’t discount it.

The water wetter worked well enough that I didn’t need to pursue more coolant capacity.
 

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I thought Whipple worked out all those details on there Dyno runs . Wasn’t it sold as a tune that you could tow with? And now I’ve got to worry about if it’s going to overheat? I’m asking for WHIPPLE CHARGED to chime in on this one!!
 
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I thought Whipple worked out all those details on there Dyno runs . Wasn’t it sold as a tune that you could tow with? And now I’ve got to worry about if it’s going to overheat? I’m asking for WHIPPLE CHARGED to chime in on this one!!

Uh no one said you'd overheat lol

Man this forum is hilarious
 

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I just plugged in my Tomahawk and watched the coolant temp while I did a WOT pull up the onramp and it hit 220 outside temp is 63.


Edit I will go buy some water wetter and see what happens.

You Gen 2 guys should find out if CBR makes a radiator for you. I've done back to back 0-120+ pulls and haven't hit 220. Even in hot weather a WOT pull will only move my coolant temp up about 20 degrees and it cools back down FAST.

This is what I have in my Gen 1...

https://www.rpgoffroad.com/product/cbr-oem-ford-raptor-replacement-radiator/
 

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So some feedback on the Whipple Kit.


I was at a friends birthday party in the middle of nowhere and his son who has a 6.2L F150 that is tuned started talking shit, so we lined them out in the country Street outlaws style and let them rip.


I pulled him out of the hole and increased the gap to about 200 ft by 1/4 mile, we did that 3 times and the results were the same all 3. I think he said he had SCT tuner and canned tunes. I wish they took video at the end. :-(


It was fun because I was the city slicker with the V6 vs good ole boys with the V8.
 

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So some feedback on the Whipple Kit.


I was at a friends birthday party in the middle of nowhere and his son who has a 6.2L F150 that is tuned started talking shit, so we lined them out in the country Street outlaws style and let them rip.


I pulled him out of the hole and increased the gap to about 200 ft by 1/4 mile, we did that 3 times and the results were the same all 3. I think he said he had SCT tuner and canned tunes. I wish they took video at the end. :-(


It was fun because I was the city slicker with the V6 vs good ole boys with the V8.

A tune doesn't do much for a 6.2 but improve driveability and responsiveness. Power increase isn't really significant.
 

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https://youtu.be/CPmJDdFwMvo

So here is a bloke in a 2017 Regular ecoboost.
He’s towing up a small grade.

He overheats.

He has no tune.

Same cooling capacity as a Raptor.

He should have used the water wetter.

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Now the armchair Einsteins will chime in about how there must be something wrong with how he was driving or how much he towed, or that he has a defective truck.
 

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https://youtu.be/CPmJDdFwMvo

So here is a bloke in a 2017 Regular ecoboost.
He’s towing up a small grade.

He overheats.

He has no tune.

Same cooling capacity as a Raptor.

He should have used the water wetter.

---------- Post added at 03:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:58 PM ----------

Now the armchair Einsteins will chime in about how there must be something wrong with how he was driving or how much he towed, or that he has a defective truck.

I must confess a little trepidation in engaging you in a discussion on FRF, as it tends to end up costing me money. Admit it - you probably thought I couldn’t use the word ‘trepidation’ in a sentence...

It is safe to say I know exactly two things about towing and they’re both wrong. What I would offer is we may not have enough information in evidence. You can see the speed, gear, boost and the like in the gauge display from the video, but where was the driver? what altitude? outside temp and humidity? Is the driver’s temp gauge reasonably accurate? Maybe too much anti-freeze, not enough water?

It is quite unusual for Ford to screw up a major system on the F150. It is the best selling vehicle and the sales flagship. They know and at least tacitly acknowledge that consumers understand cargo limits, etc but that in reality if a consumer shows up to tow something, and it’s over the weight limit, they’re not driving home to go rent another truck, they’re going to make it work with the truck they own. Their testing has reflected this in years past.

So how many folks have this issue? I see a lot of contractor vehicle traffic and right after the super duty, the F150 eco is highly represented, hauling all manner of crazy stuff.

So I’m not saying this guy doesn’t have a legit issue, but is it consistent across the model line? It’s like the ubiquitous ‘17+ oil pan leak. It looks like there’s a lot of them but we’re only hearing about the failures, not the trucks that don’t have the leak.

Would water wetter help in a unit that has a defect? maybe. Maybe not.
 

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The rad should be built like this industrial rad. Air charge cooler and rad side by side


If you really want to dream here is a fan

https://cleanfix.org/en
 

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