GEN 2 Wheel Hop/axle wrap Solutions

[alphatwox]

my truck cycles 22" and has SVC traction bars on it. sorry that it isn't 2', but its a leaf sprung truck.

I've got about 2500 dirt miles on them.

I've never had any issues with dragging them either, perhaps because of the 40s.

I'd dare to say that the crews that I run with ( Expedition x Offroad and Texas Motorworx) beat trucks and parts harder than pretty much any other groups out there. If you run with EXO or TMX, you run your truck hard. you break stuff, then you fix it. Parts that don't stand up get tossed by the wayside quickly.

I will say this emphatically. SVC Gen2 raptor parts have more collective, hard baja miles on them than any other manufacturer's Gen2 parts out there.

I fix broken and janky stuff as part of my role on the runs. I have yet to see Rogue parts stand up ( outside of the bumpers). In fact the only time Ive seen rogue traction bars on a truck in-person, they were causing so much binding that they were robbing about 3-4 inches of travel out of the truck.


I personally, reward companies that meet deadlines, support their customers and race as part of their R & D.

SVC meets those criteria.

Rogue doesn't come anywhere even close to meeting any of those criteria. and before you go defending rogue, I am one of the "customers" that they screwed over, to the point that Amex had to get the money back for me. They are a cancer on the offroad industry.

If someone sent me a KHC torque arm that fits with a Currie, I'd try it and provide honest feedback, but that is only because I think Dave's stuff is cool and it appears that KHC "does it right". I can also say that unless it did something magically different, I'd go right back to the SVC traction bars when I was done testing.

I don't have a functionality reason to move away from SVC.

So argue all you want, say whatever you want. SVC stuff works. If you know how to drive and pick a line, you won't drag anything.

Perfect response....

 

[Oldfart]

No they won't they will help a lot though. With stock rear springs, wheel hop sucked ass. I got deavers and it was 85% fixed. I was set on traction bars or the torque arm. Then I got new tires. Now it is 99% gone. The KO2s suck, period. Dry street traction is terrible. Anyway, my $.02

What tires did you get that you like so much more?

 

[Truckasaurus]

Nice work genius You cannot take two photos taken at different heights and do a comparison. It is very Obvious the camera on the SVC bars are lower.
You also cannot do a clearance comparison between two completely different photos. Your postulations have been completely invalidated.

It is also seems to be common knowledge on this forum you don’t even have a Raptor. Everyone on here knows You are nothing more than just some troll. Probably in your parents basement playing video games and watching gay ***********. Just pull your lip over your head and swallow for the good of everyone on here and the rest of humanity.

Going with the ostrich defense. Nice!

 

[Truckasaurus]

my truck cycles 22" and has SVC traction bars on it. sorry that it isn't 2', but its a leaf sprung truck.

I've got about 2500 dirt miles on them.

I've never had any issues with dragging them either, perhaps because of the 40s.

I'd dare to say that the crews that I run with ( Expedition x Offroad and Texas Motorworx) beat trucks and parts harder than pretty much any other groups out there. If you run with EXO or TMX, you run your truck hard. you break stuff, then you fix it. Parts that don't stand up get tossed by the wayside quickly.

I will say this emphatically. SVC Gen2 raptor parts have more collective, hard baja miles on them than any other manufacturer's Gen2 parts out there.

I fix broken and janky stuff as part of my role on the runs. I have yet to see Rogue parts stand up ( outside of the bumpers). In fact the only time Ive seen rogue traction bars on a truck in-person, they were causing so much binding that they were robbing about 3-4 inches of travel out of the truck.


I personally, reward companies that meet deadlines, support their customers and race as part of their R & D.

SVC meets those criteria.

Rogue doesn't come anywhere even close to meeting any of those criteria. and before you go defending rogue, I am one of the "customers" that they screwed over, to the point that Amex had to get the money back for me. They are a cancer on the offroad industry.

If someone sent me a KHC torque arm that fits with a Currie, I'd try it and provide honest feedback, but that is only because I think Dave's stuff is cool and it appears that KHC "does it right". I can also say that unless it did something magically different, I'd go right back to the SVC traction bars when I was done testing.

I don't have a functionality reason to move away from SVC.

So argue all you want, say whatever you want. SVC stuff works. If you know how to drive and pick a line, you won't drag anything.

I am not doubting that they work, nor am I knocking SVC as a company. I am just saying their bars and mounts hang a lot lower than Rogue's.

I am also well aware of Rogue's sometimes less than stellar customer service.

 

[zombiekiller]

I am not doubting that they work, nor am I knocking SVC as a company. I am just saying their bars and mounts hang a lot lower than Rogue's.

I am also well aware of Rogue's sometimes less than stellar customer service.

but you are missing that the axle side mount doesn't drag or catch on anything with the SVC setup. if you aim the differential, or any other similarly located piece of your truck at a ROCK, YOU'RE GONNA HIT IT.

If you pick a line that you can drive through and know what you're doing, you magically don't drag things on obstacles.

and you're also missing that the rogue traction bars can cause binding.


I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I find it comical when opinions get real soft when someone with actual experience chimes in.

Before then it is ALLLLL internet hypothetical sword-fighting.

Perhaps folks don't need to levy their opinion if they have no real-world experience. Perhaps share your opinion along with the reasoning for it.

I mean, my nuts hang pretty low, but I don't drag them on anything and they seem to still work just fine, but perhaps I need to look at a ******** lift.

Or maybe I just need to stop reading this message board.

 

[Truckasaurus]

but you are missing that the axle side mount doesn't drag or catch on anything with the SVC setup. if you aim the differential, or any other similarly located piece of your truck at a ROCK, YOU'RE GONNA HIT IT.

If you pick a line that you can drive through and know what you're doing, you magically don't drag things on obstacles.

and you're also missing that the rogue traction bars can cause binding.


I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I find it comical when opinions get real soft when someone with actual experience chimes in.

Before then it is ALLLLL internet hypothetical sword-fighting.

Perhaps folks don't need to levy their opinion if they have no real-world experience. Perhaps share your opinion along with the reasoning for it.

I mean, my nuts hang pretty low, but I don't drag them on anything and they seem to still work just fine, but perhaps I need to look at a ******** lift.

Or maybe I just need to stop reading this message board.

At no point in this thread did I ever doubt that the SVC bars work. Want to show me where I did?

Further, I never stated an OPINION. I stated a FACT. The SVC bars hang a lot lower than the Rogue bars.

 

[crjdriver]

Going with the ostrich defense. Nice!

It is called parallax error. The same thing happens when you view a gauge from the side.

 

[crjdriver]

I am not doubting that they work, nor am I knocking SVC as a company. I am just saying their bars and mounts hang a lot lower than Rogue's.

I am also well aware of Rogue's sometimes less than stellar customer service.

And this is a lie from someone that does not even have the truck, nor traction bars.

 

[Truckasaurus]

It is called parallax error. The same thing happens when you view a gauge from the side.

I am familiar. Not what's happening. Both the frame side and axle side mounts are significantly higher. It would require some incredible engineering to somehow make the bars (or the mounts) to sit lower.

If that's not important to you, cool. It was a factor for me, though.

 

[crjdriver]

I am familiar. Not what's happening. Both the frame side and axle side mounts are significantly higher. It would require some incredible engineering to somehow make the bars (or the mounts) to sit lower.

If that's not important to you, cool. It was a factor for me, though.

That is exactly what we are seeing in the first 2 photos.