GEN 2 Wheel Hop/axle wrap Solutions

[Truckasaurus]

I have no idea what the hell you are smoking. Have you ever even seen these bars side by side? The rogue racing bars hang far lower. Ken Block Tested the bars for SVC. No problems with travel or articulation. He could not break them. Know not what the F——— you are talking about.

Valhalla Motorsports builds off road race raptors. With double the suspension travel and SVC Bars. There is no substitute they say.

Don’t you get tired of constantly getting called out by everyone for the bull you spew.

See pics attached. And this is just from the side. It gets worse when you see how low the SVC setup hangs under the axle itself. I will post that next.

 

[Truckasaurus]

I have no idea what the hell you are smoking. Have you ever even seen these bars side by side? The rogue racing bars hang far lower. Ken Block Tested the bars for SVC. No problems with travel or articulation. He could not break them. Know not what the F——— you are talking about.

Valhalla Motorsports builds off road race raptors. With double the suspension travel and SVC Bars. There is no substitute they say.

Don’t you get tired of constantly getting called out by everyone for the bull you spew.

See how Rogue took the time to fabricate a high clearance mount? SVC sure didn't.

What was that you were saying again about spewing bull?

Again, remind me, does your truck even have traction bars?

Sit down son.

 

[Truckasaurus]

$1500 for that? WTF? hahahhahahhahahhahahahhaahhahhahahahahahahahahahahah

Versus $1k for SVC's Stiffler bar knock-offs?

The Rogue's are a bargain.

 

[crjdriver]

See how Rogue took the time to fabricate a high clearance mount? SVC sure didn't.

What was that you were saying again about spewing bull?

Again, remind me, does your truck even have traction bars?

Sit down son.

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Nice work genius You cannot take two photos taken at different heights and do a comparison. It is very Obvious the camera on the SVC bars are lower.
You also cannot do a clearance comparison between two completely different photos. Your postulations have been completely invalidated.

It is also seems to be common knowledge on this forum you don’t even have a Raptor. Everyone on here knows You are nothing more than just some troll. Probably in your parents basement playing video games and watching gay ***********. Just pull your lip over your head and swallow for the good of everyone on here and the rest of humanity.

 

[txgunsntrucks]

adjust your air pressure

 

[TXRaptor]

Hey Sasquatch 77, er’ Truckasaurus, which of the pictures above are from your awesome Gen 1?

 

[Woolaroc]

Hang tight, I'm going to get some popcorn. This is getting good!

I do have a few questions. What's better overall, deavers or traction bars (either company)? What should be done first on these truck, front springs or rear suspension? I feel the boat like travel when I turn more than I do the wheel hop so I'm leaning towards Geiser springs.

 

[crjdriver]

Hang tight, I'm going to get some popcorn. This is getting good!

I do have a few questions. What's better overall, deavers or traction bars (either company)? What should be done first on these truck, front springs or rear suspension? I feel the boat like travel when I turn more than I do the wheel hop so I'm leaning towards Geiser springs.

Deavers greatly reduce axel wrap and wheel hop and traction bars eliminate it. some people complain about lack of articulation and travel with the traction bars. I have never had a problem with any truck I have had Traction bars on.

 

[TXRaptor]

Unless you like the nose high look, adding Geisers up front requires Deaver +3s (or similar) in the back. I did mine at the same time I went with 37s and the floating boat feeling, plus the wheel hop went away completely. And NO traction bars were needed!

 

[zombiekiller]

Dude. Are you serious? Yes, I have seen them side by side. Unlike you, I actually own, for many years now, a fully built Raptor. So, again, unlike you, I don't need to invoke imaginary friends like Ken Block.

I don't personally know the guys at Valhalla but I know a few guys who have had their trucks worked on there. They don't regularly build trucks with 2' of rear travel at that shop. And trucks with 2' of rear travel do NOT have SVC traction bars on them. They are linked and don't need traction bars. Does Valhalla have their own links, by the way? Don't bother answering that. You wouldn't even know what the question means.

Remind me, does your truck even have traction bars on it?

Rogue makes the superior product and Rogue brought theirs to market many years before SVC did.​

my truck cycles 22" and has SVC traction bars on it. sorry that it isn't 2', but its a leaf sprung truck.

I've got about 2500 dirt miles on them.

I've never had any issues with dragging them either, perhaps because of the 40s.

I'd dare to say that the crews that I run with ( Expedition x Offroad and Texas Motorworx) beat trucks and parts harder than pretty much any other groups out there. If you run with EXO or TMX, you run your truck hard. you break stuff, then you fix it. Parts that don't stand up get tossed by the wayside quickly.

I will say this emphatically. SVC Gen2 raptor parts have more collective, hard baja miles on them than any other manufacturer's Gen2 parts out there.

I fix broken and janky stuff as part of my role on the runs. I have yet to see Rogue parts stand up ( outside of the bumpers). In fact the only time Ive seen rogue traction bars on a truck in-person, they were causing so much binding that they were robbing about 3-4 inches of travel out of the truck.


I personally, reward companies that meet deadlines, support their customers and race as part of their R & D.

SVC meets those criteria.

Rogue doesn't come anywhere even close to meeting any of those criteria. and before you go defending rogue, I am one of the "customers" that they screwed over, to the point that Amex had to get the money back for me. They are a cancer on the offroad industry.

If someone sent me a KHC torque arm that fits with a Currie, I'd try it and provide honest feedback, but that is only because I think Dave's stuff is cool and it appears that KHC "does it right". I can also say that unless it did something magically different, I'd go right back to the SVC traction bars when I was done testing.

I don't have a functionality reason to move away from SVC.

So argue all you want, say whatever you want. SVC stuff works. If you know how to drive and pick a line, you won't drag anything.