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Wilson

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What the **** is E-30 and why should I buy it?


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That's what I am saying... I assume it's something with Ethanol.

E30 is 30% ethanol, just like E85 is 85%. I assume wilson is pushing it because he's from north dakota and may farm corn or something that makes money from sales of ethanol. As far as I'm concerned, ANY ethanol sucks as it attracts water and has less BTU per gallon than gasoline...but perhaps he'll enlighten us on why it's better.

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I exclusively use this...everything else is for peasants.

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That article is funny . They dance around the mpg issue with some subjective anecdotes, and go back to trying to lure people in with talk of more power. It's true that more power can be made in some cases, however at the end of the day ethanol has less BTU/gal than gasoline and as such your mpg will suffer. I'm all for supporting american farmers but let's not ignore the realities and trade off's of more ethanol. Ethanol attracts water as well and a tank of e30 that sits over time will absorb more water than e10 and significantly more than straight gasoline. Oh well. Some people are willing to accept these downsides to E30 in an effort to support american farmers and I can respect that, but it's not available in most areas, and the downsides don't outweigh the pluses in my estimation. I hope the folks that run it have good experiences.
 

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Just about all of the station around here are price gouging when you go above the base grade fuel. Some are .20 per more each grade you jump and some are as much as .30 per grade jump. I found a station that I usually pass once a week that offers 93 octane for the old .10 per grade up charge. So 87 octane is $2.399, 89 octane is $2.499 and 93 octane is $2.599. So I've been exclusively running the 93 at that price. If I have to pay $2.959 - $3.099 for 91 or 93 I'll be going to a lower grade.

I have a 97' Cobra with 150,000 miles on it. The last 70,000 miles it's had nothing but 87 octane in it. The motor has never been apart and it still gets the same fuel mileage it's always gotten on premium or 87.

It used to be that the higher octane fuels carried the detergents that weren't put in the base grade. But it's been years since that was the case.
 

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It used to be that the higher octane fuels carried the detergents that weren't put in the base grade. But it's been years since that was the case.

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You have good taste in cars Darin. I had ’97 too.
I too have to drive a little to get reasonable fuel costs. It can be cyclical but I can drive about 20 miles and the gas is typically 30 cents per gallon cheaper. Often the increase in grades is about 20 cents per grade around me though, even going farther out into the sticks.

I tell you what though, the Raptor fuel tank is 2x + bigger than my last ride so I need to fill up a little more often to avoid sticker shock.
 

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You have good taste in cars Darin. I had ’97 too.
I too have to drive a little to get reasonable fuel costs. It can be cyclical but I can drive about 20 miles and the gas is typically 30 cents per gallon cheaper. Often the increase in grades is about 20 cents per grade around me though, even going farther out into the sticks.

I tell you what though, the Raptor fuel tank is 2x + bigger than my last ride so I need to fill up a little more often to avoid sticker shock.

I'm a bit over the top when it comes to fuel pricing. I always watch pricing at stations in my travels so when I see a deal and I'm below half I fill up. Otherwise if I know I'll be traveling by a station and the fuel is quite a bit cheaper I'll hold out until I get by them. The station that is significantly cheaper is about 12 miles from my work and even further from my house. But I usually travel by there every Sunday so I stop and fill up then.

I have a bit of an addiction with Mustangs.....
My current inventory is:
- 1988 Fox hatch open track car
- 1997 Cobra CP with full 03' Cobra interior
- 2003 Cobra CP with 15,000 miles (bought new)
- 2007 Saleen Parnelli Jones Super Shaker car with 15,000 miles. This is a 1 of 29 cars
 

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I'm a bit over the top when it comes to fuel pricing. I always watch pricing at stations in my travels so when I see a deal and I'm below half I fill up. Otherwise if I know I'll be traveling by a station and the fuel is quite a bit cheaper I'll hold out until I get by them. The station that is significantly cheaper is about 12 miles from my work and even further from my house. But I usually travel by there every Sunday so I stop and fill up then.

I have a bit of an addiction with Mustangs.....
My current inventory is:
- 1988 Fox hatch open track car
- 1997 Cobra CP with full 03' Cobra interior
- 2003 Cobra CP with 15,000 miles (bought new)
- 2007 Saleen Parnelli Jones Super Shaker car with 15,000 miles. This is a 1 of 29 cars

I assume you use it - but for others that aren't aware - the gasbuddy app lets you know the lowest fuel prices in your area based on your phone's gps etc.

Also for folks looking for ethanol free fuel - the app called puregas helps you locate it.
 

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Just about all of the station around here are price gouging when you go above the base grade fuel. Some are .20 per more each grade you jump and some are as much as .30 per grade jump. I found a station that I usually pass once a week that offers 93 octane for the old .10 per grade up charge. So 87 octane is $2.399, 89 octane is $2.499 and 93 octane is $2.599. So I've been exclusively running the 93 at that price. If I have to pay $2.959 - $3.099 for 91 or 93 I'll be going to a lower grade.

I have a 97' Cobra with 150,000 miles on it. The last 70,000 miles it's had nothing but 87 octane in it. The motor has never been apart and it still gets the same fuel mileage it's always gotten on premium or 87.

It used to be that the higher octane fuels carried the detergents that weren't put in the base grade. But it's been years since that was the case.


A LOT has changed since 97... Remember your cell phone in 97 (if you even had one) now they are more powerful than computers 10 years ago let aone 20. So with that in mind, car ecus are the same. They are smart, really smart. You put shit gas in and they will back down the power and you will get worse mileage( in a nutshell 87 vs 91, lower octane burns hotter it takes more to cool.) Ford and other manufacturers have to make it 87 compliant because cheap ***** will run it, and they certainly dont want to warranty engines because of that.
In 97 the ecus weren't smart...so the "timing limit" was set for 87 octane


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