Way to handle intercooler condensate buildup problems in 3.5 ecoboost

[Ironhorse07]

...As seen on TV!

 

[smurfslayer]

Search on YouTube as @Truckzor said. I have a V8 so I really could give a shit.

And yet here ... and there you are.

Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. How would you ever know where to patch...and then the nail would go right through it anyways.
A better analogy is how off road racers put slime in their tires, just in case they hit a cactus... Oh wait, i guess that kinda supports the weep hole...
You guys are the trolls, offering nothing. Just flaming a guy for what seems to be an ongoing problem for the ecoboost.
If you don't have a problem, great. But search around...there are a few that seem to have eerily similar symptoms.
Maybe say something useful, like average temp and humidity you drive in??

His analogy makes perfect sense for a street driven truck.

You are correct, the majority of the ’17 Raptor owners here are rejecting the false narrative being spread by the user identified as sasquatch77 and at least 2 other user accounts on FRF, because the “solution” that is “guaranteed to work” has not been substantiated by an actual mechanic or engineer, and in fact has been rejected by a Ford Tech here.

Now, all of that said does not mean the problem does not exist, even potentially in the ’15 + 3.5s or the Raptor.

This post links to numerous documents attributable to Ford that make a strong case that Ford does know that an issue is present but all of the doc I could find is pre ’15.

If all the doc is pre ’15, and there is no change to the IC or CAC infrastructure within the truck then Ford has made a cost benefit analysis on the problem and determined there’s not an immediate need to address the problem with any of the proposed and documented solutions.

Heres a thought...maybe ford "fixed" it on the older ecoboost at lower power. Bump it up 70hp a couple changes here and there and hurry up to get it out for 2017 and boom the problem is back?
Just saying. I dont read ecoboost forums, i just read about the truck i own (and maybe the one i will own in the future)
I bet there are at least 20 who have a hesitation here and 1/2 dozen threads?

I counted 4, 5 reports, not threads. if you count the “shudder at idle” and let’s be fair, there’s at least 2 Gen1 Raps reporting a “misfire”. But let’s give the reporters the benefit of the doubt here.

However, the premise of this helping the 2015+ crowd has yet to be substantiated. At least one ’17 Rap owner had the misfire and had it fixed, by the dealer, with a plug replacement, and no weep hole.

Here’s a competing thought: Maybe Ford has sufficiently mitigated the issue to the point it will not produce a significant enough number of issues to warrant a repair, and ostensibly either a TSB or service update, or outlast the warranty period, or it could have been mitigated by some of the other design changes.

Or not.

The thing is, posters on FRF don’t know - that includes me.

What is known, is that Sasquatch77 is not “here to help”. He/she’s here to delight in the misery of others, and pounce on every ‘17+ raptor buyer who has problems. he/she routinely does likes on posts where 17+ owners report major problems, and posts drill a weep hole as a solution to practically every reported issue, worms it into unrelated discussions, and has simply put no actual thought process behind any form of actual troubleshooting to reach a conclusion.

Because the misfire has been reported previously is not evidence of a current issue absent other evidence. It’s empirical, nothing more. Those previous occurrences are nothing more than happenstance at this point as it relates to the 17+ Raptor. The potential is there to establish a relationship, and possibly cause, but it hasn’t been established in anywhere near a critical problem solving attempt.

I’ve asked "Ray" to post a video of his truck then the hole - we'll see if he's real or not

Here’s the thing, take a look in CFIT’s serious engine misfire thread at Sasquatch77’s posts and receptive or friendly to his/her position; note the time stamps of those posts. This pattern is repeated in other threads and is typical of a multi-account troll. I have dealt with this as a forum owner and moderator, elsewhere. The FRF “moderators” should have long since banned sasquatch77 and his/her collateral accounts.

Look, there can be a possible issue, and there can be a non-Ford sourced, possibly even an inexpensive or simple fix - it’s pretty common really.
There are probably 10+ motorcycles electronically limited to 186 mph / 300 kph top speed. Several of them are derestricted by cutting a single wire, with no other ill effects. There are plenty of low cost performance hacks that can be done on all manner of Mustangs. So a solution such as the potential evacuation of condensation is conceivable. Not proven, but conceivable.

The issue is not with that possibility, the issue is with the message, how the message is delivered and the messenger. It’s one thing to say ‘hey, others have done the following and it may be of use’. This, is not that. This is a snake oil salesman/saleswoman narcissistically hawking a guaranteed fix with no ill effects, no substantiating evidence that the issue actually affects the current model Raptor and no actual supporting data - at least as of yet.

Who exactly is this “guaranteed solution” attempting to convince?

sasquatch77?
Users of FRF?
anyone who will listen?
all of the above?

Not sayin. Just sayin’.

 

[pjones]

Sasfuck, why don't you post your contact info so if your hole doesn't work, someone can visit with you and make good on that guarantee.

 

[Sasquatch77]

Why? We already have people here that have done the weep hole and misfires went away. The ecoboost community has known to do this for years, so there is no real question on this. I have no idea why you would not take this advice and do it. I am just trying to help.

 

[pjones]

There are plenty of people here who know you are a ******* troll and just wants to **** people over. I know not being about to get women sucks, but taking it out on ecoboost owners won't change that.

 

[Sasquatch77]

Why would you think I am trying to screw people over? Most here took offense to having the misfire - I get that. I did too with mine. But, get over the problem. Why wouldn't you want to know how to properly fix the problem? You won't break the engine and you won't hurt performance- already proven. Why would you want to go rounds with your service dept and be without the truck?

 

[OPT PRIME]

Sasq, I am new to turbo charging, not necessarily engines. At low power settings would the induction system and hence the intercooler work at a vacuum like an NA engine? If so could this weep hole be a source for sand, debris, etc?

 

[Sasquatch77]

No - it is a positive pressure system and constantly cleans itself out. The weep hole works great!

 

[pjones]

Why would you think I am trying to screw people over? Most here took offense to having the misfire - I get that. I did too with mine. But, get over the problem. Why wouldn't you want to know how to properly fix the problem? You won't break the engine and you won't hurt performance- already proven. Why would you want to go rounds with your service dept and be without the truck?

Because you are one sick ****. Nothing has been proven except you are a special kind of idiot with an axe to grind.

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[ogdobber]

...because the “solution” that is “guaranteed to work” has not been substantiated by an actual mechanic or engineer, and in fact has been rejected by a Ford Tech here.

i found that "ford techs" post. he agrees the weep hole works, he just prefers fixing it the "right" way (if you want I link the post)

At least one ’17 Rap owner had the misfire and had it fixed, by the dealer, with a plug replacement, and no weep hole.

what killed the plug? plugs are EXTREMELY reliable. hell my 88k plugs easily would've made 100k. With fuel injection they just don't fail anymore.


There are 4 threads... serious hesitation, bucking and snorting, Almost 3k mikes and my experience with Ford so far..., and shutter at idle with ac on (might be something different, but maybe the same)

And when i said 20 people...mmm, second thought i bet I could find a dozen who piped up.

Is the weep hole the best solution? No. but its proven to work. I said earlier that maybe ford fixed it with the 15+ ecos. 380hp and the shutters may have done the trick. add 70 hp and the right (wrong) weather conditions and the fix doesn't work for the .01%

solutions for condensation without fitting aftermarket...

-weep hole
or
-vent the oe bov to atmosphere (and plug the line coming off) <<<no harm to try that

so maybe I'll find the "dozen" who have chimed in to have a hesitation and maybe we do a little test???


If the price I saw was right, $200, and 20 people chip in at $10 a pop for someone to drill the hole and see if it works.

who's in? hell i'll donate $40 to satisfy my curiosity