To supercharge or not???

[MotuMute]

Street Queen... Obviously. Offroaders should never try to reason with queeners as it's beyond frustrating

LPR RIP

 

[Blind1]

^^I knew that would eventually appear in this thread...

 

[Boss Hoss]

At great personal risk will make the following statement:

As this site has grown and there are more and more Raptors on the street the number of "street queens" has increased at an increasing rate. It is apparent that this is a trend that will continue. So I MUST ask the question as I have even read this in one of the rags before.

Will the Raptor become a truck that will be recognized more as a "street queen" than a serious off road vehicle due to the number of people that buy it and never take it off road and by that I mean off of the non-paved gravel type roads? I think that if you go back and read a lot of the posts here on this site in various threads then it is evident. Not that that is bad because if you want to drive a “testosterone” vehicle then by all means do it is your hard earned money ---well in most cases it is so by all means make yourself happy.

On the other hand there are those of us here who have seen what the cruel sometimes Very Harsh Off Road Environment can do to a truck. I have had many over the years with some that made more HP and esp TQ than most of the SC gassers being discussed on this thread. The difference was that the ones I ran in the past were not a Raptor nor did they have go fast stickers in fact, they looked very ordinary (but did not sound) save a small lift on the Ford’s and Chevy’s and leveling kits on the Dodge’s.

Now of course is a different game as the ability to make the oil burners run hard with the new motors is more than problematic. Point is there will always be the folks who buy and then modify the Raptor for performance on and off the road and there are others whose idea of off road is hitting the RR crossing at 30 mph. Just a fact as we get larger at FRF the opinions will become more diverse.

 

[2004boss]

I would consider my truck to be a street queen. I offroad some on the orv trails and the woods in mio but there's not really any spots to really rip it. At least not like I see you guys doing on the Texas raptor run. Working 7/12's its really hard to do anything lol. I would love to really have some fun but there just no time.
I think your gonna see a lot of raptors that never get dirty. With the slight increase in cost over an fx4 why would you buy an fx4. The raptor looks much better and has a better resale.
Lol wayyyyy off topic.
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[Az Scooter]

First off, I live in Arizona. A burned car on the side of the road is a weekly, if it isn't a daily experience. We don't know beyond speculation why that Raptor burned to the ground, although there has been speculation that it was because it was the Henessey package on it.
I am actually leaning towards the NA version of modifications. The reason being is that is the way I have always gotten my power, except on my diesel trucks. Those were easy, a program, an exhaust, and I had another 100 hp on tap. Going back to gas after 15 years is a little more difficult.
I do see a lot of people with superchargers on their trucks. I have also seen people write that Superchargers and offroading don't mix. The purpose of this thread was so that I could figure out why they don't mix, to see if there was something that I was not totally understanding.
So, before you try and insult me saying I am driving a street queen, that is hardly the case. Mine has been down trails that have been marked as UTV only, or Jeep only trails, and it worked great. I only wish that I could get out more often, because like so many people on this forum, I am busy between all of the things I am involved with. Off Road adventures sometimes have to take a back seat to things that need to be done.

 

[sabumaru]

First off, I live in Arizona. A burned car on the side of the road is a weekly, if it isn't a daily experience. We don't know beyond speculation why that Raptor burned to the ground, although there has been speculation that it was because it was the Henessey package on it.
I am actually leaning towards the NA version of modifications. The reason being is that is the way I have always gotten my power, except on my diesel trucks. Those were easy, a program, an exhaust, and I had another 100 hp on tap. Going back to gas after 15 years is a little more difficult.
I do see a lot of people with superchargers on their trucks. I have also seen people write that Superchargers and offroading don't mix. The purpose of this thread was so that I could figure out why they don't mix, to see if there was something that I was not totally understanding.
So, before you try and insult me saying I am driving a street queen, that is hardly the case. Mine has been down trails that have been marked as UTV only, or Jeep only trails, and it worked great. I only wish that I could get out more often, because like so many people on this forum, I am busy between all of the things I am involved with. Off Road adventures sometimes have to take a back seat to things that need to be done.

Biggest reason for not mixing ( not a raptor owner/offroader here)
A heat buildup due to constant load
B dust/ particals turn into sandblasing and high desentity will kill the engines internals

 

[Az Scooter]

But if there is an air filter that is functioning properly, how does the risk increase over a NA engine?

 

[sabumaru]

But if there is an air filter that is functioning properly, how does the risk increase over a NA engine?

Air filter for a supercharger needs to handel an increased airflow
Altough this is possible. The filters are not up to the extra psi's a sc or turbo puts on them. Increasing risk of decreased airflow or evenworse decreased filtering

Keep in mind. No filter keeps everything out. Very fine particals still get true. And the increased air desenty will still make it hurt the engine

Nice link : http://www.hi-flow.com/HP004FAQ.html

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On a side note

I would get me an supercharger as well if i had the chance
A : no deserts to play in here in the Netherlands
B : awsume to kill wannabee rice-racers
C : just pure E-peen value

Streetqueen probably
But i think we should reserve that word for raptors with lift-kits imo
I would love to race offroad with it
So even if i wouldn't i would make it ready to do so. But supercharged

Also. With a tempreture between -10 celcius and 30 celius
Average humidity and acces to 98 octane fuel i think the engine is in a good land to survive it

 

[Blind1]

I guess I fall in the Street Queen category since I only take my Raptor down dirt roads & through mud puddles on the way to the carwash.... Though I do prefer N/A engines.

 

[Maxx2893]

The reason that there are large heat exchangers is because engines run better with cooler air. It has nothing to do with the heat an engine generates.

I have considered some suspension upgrades, but I want power first. I have a pretty good idea of what I want on that end. Part of my thing is that I don't want to mess with the day to day driveability of the truck by messing with the suspension in an unmeasured way. Right now, if we go somewhere, my wife would rather go in the Raptor then her 13 Avalon, if nothing else, just for the ride, and the Avalon isn't bad.

Right, but forced induction has to have heat exchangers. It's not a choice. Because they generate more heat. The supercharger itself generates heat, anything moving has contact points somewhere, aka. friction. Friction causes heat.