The 2017 Eco-Boost vs V8 Bench Racing / Whining thread

[Sage]

Ford started the Raptor with a smaller engine in 2010......

How long did it take to "see the need"??? Wait and the V8 will come !!

You can't be leader, like the Raptor is now, with a pissant engine.

 

[Deleted member 12951]

Thought they started with the 5.4 because the 6.2 wasn't ready yet? Not sure of the whole story behind that though

 

[Jimbo]

Thought they started with the 5.4 because the 6.2 wasn't ready yet? Not sure of the whole story behind that though

You're right

 

[WarSurfer]

Thought they started with the 5.4 because the 6.2 wasn't ready yet? Not sure of the whole story behind that though

That is correct.

There is an old thread where a couple SVT guys (Hameedi included) logged in and answered a bunch of our questions. Lots of good historical info there.

 

[Frogger22]

Thought they started with the 5.4 because the 6.2 wasn't ready yet? Not sure of the whole story behind that though

You're right

That is correct.

There is an old thread where a couple SVT guys (Hameedi included) logged in and answered a bunch of our questions. Lots of good historical info there.

Could it not be yet again a new version of the V8 isn't ready but they have to throw out something so they just doing what they know they already have working?

 

[WarSurfer]

Could it not be yet again a new version of the V8 isn't ready but they have to throw out something so they just doing what they know they already have working?

Not likely. It's no coincidence that the GT also has a 2nd gen ecoboost.

 

[WyoStorm]

Still makes no sense to me that the 2017 Super Duty will still carry the 6.2L (and the 6.7L V10). Why go with the eco in the Raptor of all vehicles?

 

[WarSurfer]

Still makes no sense to me that the 2017 Super Duty will still carry the 6.2L (and the 6.7L V10). Why go with the eco in the Raptor of all vehicles?

my .02?

equal parts flagship exposure (like running it in the GT) and the new 3.5TT class that exists soley because of the Ford Ecoboost challenge trucks. Born in Baja meets bred in baja.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

my .02?

equal parts flagship exposure (like running it in the GT)

Bingo...they're trying to ween people off of the V8 mentality for CAFE standards on all F-150s. With the flagship model having the EcoBoost, they get folks to buy into the "if it's good enough for the Raptor, it's good enough for my XLT/Lariat/FX4" mentality.

 

[gwpfan]

Still makes no sense to me that the 2017 Super Duty will still carry the 6.2L (and the 6.7L V10). Why go with the eco in the Raptor of all vehicles?

Somewhat agreed - they are putting the 3.5L Eco in the Transit Vans, clear up to the 1 ton rated vans....surprised the F250 doesn't have a 3.5L Eco option...checked tow ratio's on 3.73 4x4 and the
F150 max - 17,100 GCVR and 11,800 max trailer
F250 6.2L - 19,200 GCVR and 15,500 trailer

Unless they figured putting it thru the paces in the 1 ton vans would give them the data/backing for the F250...also surprised it seems they de-tuned the vans so much -
Van - 310 HP @ 5500 and 400 @ 2500
150 - 365 HP @ 5000 and 420 @ 2500

The only difference I can see is the Van's stroke is 0.04 in. less than the F150 and DAMB vs DOHC on the valves....makes me wonder how much more one can open up the vans with a tune...

Maybe they also figured the F250 market would be harder to break into with a V6....look at all the stir just in this forum for a Raptor...