Sold my '24 R, here's why...

[GTTXRAP]

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with

They are all overpriced...but so are all brands these days.

 

[Dudebrodude]

Obviously it includes 37" tires

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with, which is why they're not selling at 94k. I suspect if Ford would break up that package, lots of people would choose 37" tires and/or Recaro's, but not many people would upgrade to dual valve.

I've had Gen 2 non-Live Valve, Gen 2 Live Valve, Gen 3 Live Valve, and two trucks with Gen 3 dual valve. I'm not convinced Live Valve is worth it in general. The best ride hands down was Gen 2 non-Live Valve. I'd love to see Ford offer a non-Live Valve base option, which would lower the price and open the opportunity for aftermarket King, Icon, etc.

How do you use your trucks? Dual valve likely only helps when you’re really ripping off-road.

 

[Nex]

Trucks aren't over priced. Your money is worth less.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

How do you use your trucks? Dual valve likely only helps when you’re really ripping off-road.

Candidly I only spend ~5-10% offroad, but so far I don’t feel much difference. I definitely don’t feel a difference hopping the curb at the local Starfuchs.

I would be interested to hear from someone with desert in their backyard that’s driven both.

 

[trav7314]

In my case, I got 6750 off sticker, 10K more for R on trade (paid $114k) so I netted out to about $16750 off the 37, which is good enough for me.

You definitely won the dealer lottery.

 

[shigman]

Obviously it includes 37" tires

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with, which is why they're not selling at 94k. I suspect if Ford would break up that package, lots of people would choose 37" tires and/or Recaro's, but not many people would upgrade to dual valve.

I've had Gen 2 non-Live Valve, Gen 2 Live Valve, Gen 3 Live Valve, and two trucks with Gen 3 dual valve. I'm not convinced Live Valve is worth it in general. The best ride hands down was Gen 2 non-Live Valve. I'd love to see Ford offer a non-Live Valve base option, which would lower the price and open the opportunity for aftermarket King, Icon, etc.

All of this is exactly correct. Cracks me up when people say the newest shocks on any new version are “night and day”. Night and day is going from twin tube ranchos to 3.0 FRS. People seem to forget that a slight barely noticeable difference doesn’t qualify as “night and day”…lol

 

[BoostCreep]

All of this is exactly correct. Cracks me up when people say the newest shocks on any new version are “night and day”. Night and day is going from twin tube ranchos to 3.0 FRS. People seem to forget that a slight barely noticeable difference doesn’t qualify as “night and day”…lol

Don’t forget to feed the hype machine.

 

[MultiStateRaptor Guy]

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[The General]

Trucks aren't over priced. Your money is worth less.

Thank you Biden!

 

[Whoops]

Ok…so I like the R, but it didn’t give me a wow feeling. Let me explain. The low end torque on it seemed like I was driving a Raptor w/ 37 not a 720 HP beast. To really appreciate the power you gotta get into the higher revs and then it takes off but can’t really do that too often. Outside of the engine, the R is pretty much a 37 (minus a few things) and I loved my ’23 w/37. I’m glad I checked the box on R, but am I going to miss it—no. Is it a killer truck, no doubt, but for a daily I don’t see the use (for me). If it had more of a punch taking off maybe would be more compelling for me.

I talked to the GM at dealer I that always work w/ directly, it was an easy decision to make the move back to a ’24 w/37 that just rolled off truck. He gave me $125K for my ’24 R (which I thought was strong), and he sold me a new ’24 w/ 37 for $6745 off MSRP. Think I could have done better there, but didn’t care as cut me back a check and brought home the 37.

As to ’24 w/37 I don’t care for these rims (23 had the best rims IMHO); the graphics are way too obnoxious vs w/ my ’23 so will probably just pull off; replacing the chrome lugs for black ones (did same on R and made it much better).

There was a thread here a while back where a bunch of R owners were selling for very similar reasons and @WTX warned me before I bought mine--well you were right. Anyway, no regrets, but happy to be back in standard ’37. I have a car problem in general, so these things don’t bother me. I once bought another car because the SiriusXM trial had run out and was too lazy to sign up so just bought another car. As I said I have issues. Love the Raptor no matter the flavor.

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