Sold my '24 R, here's why...

[GTTXRAP]

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with

They are all overpriced...but so are all brands these days.

 

[Dudebrodude]

Obviously it includes 37" tires

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with, which is why they're not selling at 94k. I suspect if Ford would break up that package, lots of people would choose 37" tires and/or Recaro's, but not many people would upgrade to dual valve.

I've had Gen 2 non-Live Valve, Gen 2 Live Valve, Gen 3 Live Valve, and two trucks with Gen 3 dual valve. I'm not convinced Live Valve is worth it in general. The best ride hands down was Gen 2 non-Live Valve. I'd love to see Ford offer a non-Live Valve base option, which would lower the price and open the opportunity for aftermarket King, Icon, etc.

How do you use your trucks? Dual valve likely only helps when you’re really ripping off-road.

 

[Nex]

Trucks aren't over priced. Your money is worth less.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

How do you use your trucks? Dual valve likely only helps when you’re really ripping off-road.

Candidly I only spend ~5-10% offroad, but so far I don’t feel much difference. I definitely don’t feel a difference hopping the curb at the local Starfuchs.

I would be interested to hear from someone with desert in their backyard that’s driven both.

 

[trav7314]

In my case, I got 6750 off sticker, 10K more for R on trade (paid $114k) so I netted out to about $16750 off the 37, which is good enough for me.

You definitely won the dealer lottery.

 

[shigman]

Obviously it includes 37" tires

94k for any eco Raptor is overpriced regardless of what it comes with, which is why they're not selling at 94k. I suspect if Ford would break up that package, lots of people would choose 37" tires and/or Recaro's, but not many people would upgrade to dual valve.

I've had Gen 2 non-Live Valve, Gen 2 Live Valve, Gen 3 Live Valve, and two trucks with Gen 3 dual valve. I'm not convinced Live Valve is worth it in general. The best ride hands down was Gen 2 non-Live Valve. I'd love to see Ford offer a non-Live Valve base option, which would lower the price and open the opportunity for aftermarket King, Icon, etc.

All of this is exactly correct. Cracks me up when people say the newest shocks on any new version are “night and day”. Night and day is going from twin tube ranchos to 3.0 FRS. People seem to forget that a slight barely noticeable difference doesn’t qualify as “night and day”…lol