GEN 2 Shudder at Idle with AC on.

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smurfslayer

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Truck did it before any aftermarket parts were installed? Possible to have a bad ECU from the factory?

Haven't talked to 5 Star other than to update tunes with new parameters
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Putting mods on when you have an undiagnosed problem is a recipe for frustration. If you put the tune on and it made the issue worse, I’d be talking to the tune vendor to discuss what was changed because that’s evidence.

It’s like adjusting the scope on a rifle when the mount is loose. Results can be ... unpredictable. Mods are only going to complicate and frustrate your attempts at resolution even more. I’m just suggesting that the more things you have changed from stock, the more variables there are in this equation and the more difficult the equation is to balance.
 

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Putting mods on when you have an undiagnosed problem is a recipe for frustration. If you put the tune on and it made the issue worse, I’d be talking to the tune vendor to discuss what was changed because that’s evidence.

It’s like adjusting the scope on a rifle when the mount is loose. Results can be ... unpredictable. Mods are only going to complicate and frustrate your attempts at resolution even more. I’m just suggesting that the more things you have changed from stock, the more variables there are in this equation and the more difficult the equation is to balance.
It's not the tune 5 star literally sells thousands of these things. The fact that it runs worse after the tune should be an obvious indication that there is water in the system. It's definitely an H2O issue boys.

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It's not the tune 5 star literally sells thousands of these things. The fact that it runs worse after the tune should be an obvious indication that there is water in the system. It's definitely an H2O issue boys.

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Is it obvious?

I’d bet 5Star hasn’t sold thousands of 2017 Rap tunes yet. Let’s look at this a little more critically. How many on FRF or similar internet fora are owning up to having one of their tunes ? single digits still? Maybe double digits, but very low. Accounting for the fact that a very small percentage of Rap owners put tunes on, and an even smaller percentage are active on the internet forums, and an even smaller subset are both modded and actively discussing on the internet, I’d guesstimate under 1,000. WELL, under. Full disclosure, I do not have a 5start tune and will go further that based on your description of the problem, assuming it to be honest, I don’t suspect 5star has caused your problems, but what changes they make; you indicated that the truck runs worse based on this.

But that wasn’t really the thrust of my point. I was quoting your post, in which you said the truck had this problem before the mods went on.

Here’s an analogy. You’re sitting on the tarmac piloting a wide body jet headed for the Olde Country, about 9 hours flight. You feel a shudder in the left engine, and it’s not showing the correct rpms.

should you :
1) abort take off, have engine inspected for potential failure
2) hey, i pre-flighted, we are GTFG, Punch that M*F*, we can make it across the pond, no problem even on one engine.

extreme and simplistic example, but the point is, you don’t know what you don’t know.

Look, it’s your truck, you want to drill holes in that *****, I say:

“Drill baby, Drill!”

$hit - PM me, I will send you a 3/8” bit. Go big, or go home.

Ok, seriously now. What evidence do you have that putting the tune on definitively proves that there’s water interfering with combustion? Not gut feeling, not supposition based on internet browbeating, what substantive PROOF do you have?

This is a problem to be solved, albeit, a potentially very expensive one. You’ve drawn a conclusion here, it seems, but the methods used to reach that conclusion -I think- should be looked at very strictly.

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Mine does it at first start up in the morning only..


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It's not the tune 5 star literally sells thousands of these things. The fact that it runs worse after the tune should be an obvious indication that there is water in the system. It's definitely an H2O issue boys.

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Why would installing the tune Indicate that there is water in the intake? Not trying to argue but rather understand where you come from on this and get a better understanding.


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